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    Rate my new team...my final team

    Hey guys as you know, I'm quitting D/P, and passing it down to my little bro. And when I do, I want him to have a nice new team to use, and I decided to make him a sandstorm team. Only problem is, I feel I've lost my touch for team making, so can you guys gimme a hand making it for him.

    Tyranitar@Leftovers
    Adamant
    252 hp, 158 Attack, 100 Speed

    Dragon Dance
    Taunt
    Crunch
    Stone Edge


    Forretress@Ledtovers
    Impish
    252 Hp, 152 Defense, 100 Sp.Defense

    Spikes
    Toxic Spikes
    Rapid Spin
    Explosion


    Cradily@Leftovers
    Careful
    252 Hp, 164 Defense, 92 Sp.Defense

    Stealth Rock
    Toxic
    Recover
    Rock Slide


    Donphan@Leftovers
    Impish
    252 Hp, 6 Attack, 252 Defense

    Ice Shard
    Earthquake
    Roar
    Knock Off


    Lucario@Focus Sash
    Modest
    6 Hp, 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed

    Aura Sphere
    HP Ice
    Dark Pulse
    Flash Cannon

    Garchomp@Choice Scarf
    Adamant
    6 Hp, 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Outrage
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Crunch

    How does it look?

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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    thats a really good team dude and heres ur last rating 10/10:D,thanks for being much help.
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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    Looks sweet to me I'd personally use stockpile on cradility over rock slide, but rockslide should speed up the effect of toxic as much as stockpile stalls other than that it's good (I wont rate it 'cause because I always give mean ratings on rate my team threads XP)

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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    this....this right here is EXACTLY what I've always wantewd to see, MSB with a sandstorm team ^^
    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSkaterBoy View Post
    Hey guys as you know, I'm quitting D/P, and passing it down to my little bro. And when I do, I want him to have a nice new team to use, and I decided to make him a sandstorm team. Only problem is, I feel I've lost my touch for team making, so can you guys gimme a hand making it for him.

    Tyranitar@Leftovers
    Adamant
    252 hp, 158 Attack, 100 Speed

    Dragon Dance
    Taunt
    Crunch
    Stone Edge
    like the EV spread, and I'd assume this is the lead to get the sandstorm going in an instant, good taunter, though it's weaknesses are easyily hit, and it gets painful when they are.

    Forretress@Ledtovers
    Impish
    252 Hp, 152 Defense, 100 Sp.Defense

    Spikes
    Toxic Spikes
    Rapid Spin
    Explosion
    one of the few people here who realizes that uber-defensive pokemon need HP and the opposite of their strong Def, I like it, same set I've got on mine, as well, you'll need the spinner, saved my life more than once, even when taunted, so that you're not just instantly screwed xD

    Cradily@Leftovers
    Careful
    252 Hp, 164 Defense, 92 Sp.Defense

    Stealth Rock
    Toxic
    Recover
    Rock Slide
    one. of. my. FAVORITES. sandstorm beast, to be sure, and brutal when it comes to sandstorm teams, toxic and sandstorm((in case toxispikes haven't been laid, or it's a flyer)) slowly eat them away, while your incredible defenses and ability to recover keep you alive. about the only thing tha can take you out in one hit with this guy is a maxxed alakazam with a critical focus blast.

    Donphan@Leftovers
    Impish
    252 Hp, 6 Attack, 252 Defense

    Ice Shard
    Earthquake
    Roar
    Knock Off
    good, you've got a roar-er, that was a mistake I made in my team, I didn't have one, and I paid dearly for it. knock off is pretty useful, and can even deal some damage((surprisingly)) when you've got attack like donphan does.

    Lucario@Focus Sash
    Modest
    6 Hp, 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed

    Aura Sphere
    HP Ice
    Dark Pulse
    Flash Cannon
    make sure to get a good strong HP on this guy, he'll be pretty lost without it. dark pulse has never been a big need for me, and flash cannon, though it is good STAB, doesn't give a whole lot of coverage. go with water pulse instead of flash, it's great for all the rocks that HP and aura sphere don't quite get to, not to mention, heatrans can suck.
    Garchomp@Choice Scarf
    Adamant
    6 Hp, 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Outrage
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    scarfchomp, onoez. not a big fan of this set myself, and though it's ability is quite useful, this one pokemon could really screw you if it's your last resort. the team, as it is, is VERY physically based, and your only special attacker is a difficult one to switch in, due to low defenses, halfway decent speed, and high sp. atk. also, your fighting and ice weaknesses are VERY high, and the team sort of abuses leftovers.
    to add to the special side, and to aid in warding off skarmbliss, try a tyraniboah, which attacks both physically and special, meaning your EV spread and nature will have to change. either that, or change cradily's rock slide over to an ancientpower or energy ball.

    How does it look?
    Not bad, not bad at all, as I said, it's VERY physically based, and it's got a lot of common weaknesses, but it's a pretty solid team, if it can be run by someone who's fairly good with their predictions.
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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    Jibbeh's touched upon the only things that bother me about this team.

    DDTar, whilst important for sandstorm off the bat, is meant to be for the late game. And since he's your only real Skarmory counter (Maybe Cario too), you'll want to preserve him a lot.

    As for Lucario, I personally see a lot of use for Vacuum Wave. Sandstorm teams are by nature slow (Lucario no exception to being slow. D: ), and a priority move with good typing is always a blessing. Focus sash seems wasteful, since his 4x rock resistance won't save him from its loss. Though I guess forry is there for a good reason.
    It has the old issue of not having enough team spaces. Everyone needs to be alive for most of the game with exceptions to forry. Garchomp and Lucario work well with this team too, for revenge killing purposes. Maybe consider Vacuum Wave on Lucario for Weavile, and bringing in Dugtrio?
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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    Wee, Cradily's the only one that I'm going to do anything with, since everything else is pretty much used on every other team.

    I wouldn't really recommend Stealth Rock on Cradily, just..because. I've been using Stockpile in place of Stealth Rock and it works wonders, especially since Suction Cups make it so that Pokémon can't pseudo-haze it away. Also, since Toxic hits everything except steel types, I'd suggest Earthquake. Earthquake scores super-effective and even 4x effective on every steel type, except the dreaded overly-used Skarmory and Bronzong. Even though Rock Slide can actually hit these two, Rock Slide would do pitiful damage.

    Cradily has a 198 attack stat with a Careful (+Sp.Def, -Sp.Atk) nature, max IV's, and the EV spread you provided (No attack)

    Skarmory with an Impish (+Def, -Sp.Atk) nature and max IV's and EV's has a 416 defense stat.

    Cradily does 40.83 to 47.98 damage to Skarmory, being easily brushed off by a simple Roost or Rest.

    Bronzong with a Relaxed (+Def, -Spd) nature and max IV's and EV's has a 364 defense stat.

    Cradily does 23.15 to 27.2 damage, which is even worse than the damage to Skarmory.
    While flyers like Salamence could pose a threat, they couldn't do much after a few Stock Piles.

    Specsmence has 525 Sp.Atk with a Modest (+Sp.Atk , -Atk) nature assuming max IV's and EV's.

    Cradily has the following Sp.Def with Stockpile and Sandstorm:

    456 defense with 0 Stockpiles
    608 defense with 1 Stockpile
    760 defense with 2 Stockpiles
    912 defense with 3 Stockpiles

    Now here is the damage that the aforemented Specsmence would do with Draco Meteor.

    175.38 to 206.09 damage with 0 Stockpiles
    132.17 to 155.32 damage with 1 Stockpile
    106.25 to 124.86 damage with 2 Stockpiles
    88.97 to 104.55 damage with 3 Stockpiles
    If Cradily could withstand the assault from a Draco Meteor, and live another day after using Recover, Cradily could toxistall a multitude of things without Rock Slide. So, in my opinion, I think that Earthquake should replace Rock Slide. I'm most likely forgetting something, since so many people use Rock Slide :(
    Last edited by Shido; 11-19-07 at 02:23 PM. Reason: Made it easier to read ;3

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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSkaterBoy View Post
    Hey guys as you know, I'm quitting D/P, and passing it down to my little bro. And when I do, I want him to have a nice new team to use, and I decided to make him a sandstorm team. Only problem is, I feel I've lost my touch for team making, so can you guys gimme a hand making it for him.

    Tyranitar@Leftovers
    Adamant
    252 HP, 158 Attack, 100 Speed

    Dragon Dance
    Taunt
    Crunch
    Stone Edge/EQ?
    Kind of weird EV spread but it can work, I guess. You might want to add EQ for coverage (maybe over SE?) but otherwise it's good.

    Forretress@Leftovers
    Impish
    252 Hp, 152 Defense, 100 Sp.Defense

    Spikes
    Toxic Spikes
    Rapid Spin
    Explosion
    Meh EV spread again, but it'll work. I just run 252HP/DEF, lol.

    Cradily@Leftovers
    Careful
    252 Hp, 164 Defense, 92 Sp.Defense

    Stealth Rock
    Toxic
    Recover
    Rock Slide
    Never used this myself, but it looks good.

    Donphan@Leftovers
    Impish
    252 Hp, 6 Attack, 252 Defense

    Ice Shard
    Earthquake
    Roar
    Knock Off
    Good.

    Lucario@Focus Sash
    Modest
    6 Hp, 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed

    Aura Sphere
    HP Ice
    Dark Pulse
    Psychic
    Get rid of Flash Cannon, it doesn't really do anything besides STAB. Replace it for Psychic, covers way more types.

    Garchomp@Choice Scarf
    Adamant
    6 Hp, 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Outrage
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Good.

    How does it look?
    9/10, nice job! Have you ran any damage calculations to test the team's effectiveness yet? If you haven't, you should try right now. =P

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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    I think it's an awesome team! Not my style but it's strong.
    If you think you're losing your touch for team making, i wonder how were your teams!!!;)
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    Re: Rate my new team...my final team

    nice team 10

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