Burning Washington: A Step too far?

[Ch0pstix]

Watch Drakengaurd Trailers, then you will know what the line is.

[diddyboy95]

I get what they're trying to say, but I don't totally agree with them. By the way, im a Christian, so just know that to help with perspective.
The point they are trying to get across is that this gets too extreme. When you think of attacking little town, you don't think of a bunch of dying civilians. If anything, all you think about is maybe one family leaving they're farm. In this game, you will be running through real streets that actually exist in DC, and there will be terrorists shooting people out of they're morning coffee house or the bank or work. Its far more life-like than attacking some little town in the middle of nowhere that does not actually exist. Do you see what im saying?

While this may be somewhat true, it could also send an entirely different message. This, for me, will make me appreciate what out soldiers actually do. It will make me more realize the threat at hand with the terrorists. It will make me more aware, and more likely to try and do something about it (not that I can really do much, but hey, I might think of something). These kinds of experiences are the things that really influence people, and can do great things for them. No doubt, it is extreme, but that's not all bad.

I love talking about stuff that has several entirely different messages or meanings within it. My favorite example is Halo. Many people hate it because they think it bashes religion by having the Covenant (a common religious thing, like a sacred law or unity) as the antagonist (bad guys). At first, I also thought that this was kinda messed up, but the gameplay was cool so I got into the story and everything. Yet my entire perspective changed when I realized more aspects of the story. There is actually tons of biblical meaning within the Halo universe. The Flood relates to two major biblical meanings. First, the Flood that wiped out all life in Genesis to and left only Noah alive, in the "Ark" (think the place where you can activate all the rings, and its the only way to survive the Flood, sorda). Second, the Flood is like sin, and can consume us all, corrupt us, and turn us (figuratively) into monsters. Then Gravemind, the major Flood mind/control thing (he still kinda confuses me as to what he actually is), is like Satan, the master of trickery (remember when he tricks Master Chief and the Arbiter in Halo 2). He is the master of evil and sin (Gravemind is like a bunch of accumulated Flood, I think) and uses sin (the Flood) as his pawn to destroy all that God has created. Then the forerunners are like God and the angels, because they created the Halo rings to destroy the Flood (just like God had to destroy all sin).
Its all a bit confusing, plus I didn't have much time to write all this, but I find it very interesting. Let me know if I confused you too much, and il try to explain it better.

This is just one major example of multiple messages within a story. Going back to the topic, I don't think there is anything to worry about with this story, but I do understand why that group said what they said.

[Rk589]

Hey what about Russia?
Think about what happened to Russia in the MW series, after that it seems as though having the US capitol in flames is delicious.

More or less its like saying that Gears of War went too far with having Humanity on extinction/the same thing with Halo.
Or GTAIV is satan incarnate.
Pointless arguments ;D

[Wolfie456]

If it was a step too far, then America would be into censorship.

Independence day sucked, but it did get our interest with the preview just showing the White House getting blown up. <- Example

[Eyyoshi]

It's a video game.

[Kr1sP]

Personally, I believe whoever thinks that a war going on around Washington being to far after 9/11 is just being conceited. I mean yeah it'd be horrible if America WERE being attacked, but this is a video game. People take things to seriously, they're not even the target audience nor will the yplay the game but they'll go ahead and throw in their two cents. I mean no one seemed to care when a nuke went off in the middle east which is in a much worse state than America right?

The thing that clenched the game for me was the new trailer...a satellite in space blew up. I can tell their will be some interesting action going on in the story...plus the announcement of the 25 kill streak nuke...

[diddyboy95]

Not that I support was these people are saying, I just don't see them as being idiots like everybody else seems to.

Originally Posted by Rk589

Hey what about Russia?
Think about what happened to Russia in the MW series, after that it seems as though having the US capitol in flames is delicious.

More or less its like saying that Gears of War went too far with having Humanity on extinction/the same thing with Halo.
Or GTAIV is satan incarnate.
Pointless arguments ;D

The examples that you gave are completely different than the situation in this game. In Gears of War, humanity is on an entirely different planet. Also, it is not just about humanity or Americans dying, its about the entire situation. Terrorists are walking the streets shooting people inside airports, shooting people on their way to work, out of coffee houses, outside of their own homes, all of which actually exist. Were not talking about aliens attacking us (anything fictional), were not talking about some random city on a planet that does not exist, and were not even talking about a semi-realistic city (like that of Grand Theft Auto). Were are talking about a real city with completely realistic environments.

Originally Posted by Wolfie456

If it was a step too far, then America would be into censorship.

Independence day sucked, but it did get our interest with the preview just showing the White House getting blown up. <- Example

Its not just about the environment getting blown up, its about the people inside the realistic environment that are completely unarmed and getting blown to bits during their everyday activities, or maybe even getting ready to go on a vacation or something (like in the airport scenario).
Also, movies are entirely different because you are not in the middle of the action, your not participating or controlling any of the action.

Originally Posted by Eyyoshi

It's a video game.

Originally Posted by Kr1sP

Personally, I believe whoever thinks that a war going on around Washington being to far after 9/11 is just being conceited. I mean yeah it'd be horrible if America WERE being attacked, but this is a video game. People take things to seriously, they're not even the target audience nor will the yplay the game but they'll go ahead and throw in their two cents. I mean no one seemed to care when a nuke went off in the middle east which is in a much worse state than America right?

The thing that clenched the game for me was the new trailer...a satellite in space blew up. I can tell their will be some interesting action going on in the story...plus the announcement of the 25 kill streak nuke...

Yes, people are taking things a bit too seriously, I totally agree. Yet I would also say that this is even beyond 9/11. Some people might be relating this to the speculation of another terrorist attack that is speculated to occur in 2010. It wouldn't surprise me if people were worried that this "upcoming terrorist attack" is going to be similar to the one in this game. If a terrorist attack were to come again, and it were anything like the one in this game, Infinity Ward would be screwed and the game would probably be taken off shelves. For those that were majorly impacted by 9/11, this is a really big deal. A friend of mine will not be allowed to get the game because his dad help fight the fires during 9/11, and does not want those memories back.

[Rookie]

The game is rated M. The game makers can have anything provocative they want.

[guilemaster]

Well, maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me, but i think i saw children in the airport scene. If the rationale of some people is that the M rating justifies them putting whatever they want in a game, why don't they throw some babies in front of those bullets? As long as it gets an M rating, i guess its fine for them to put whatever they want in. I saw the leaked footage, and it goes over my own moral lines. I was kinda sitting on the fence about getting this, but even with the option to skip the scene, I don't really want to be a part of it. I know I'm hard to understand, so just bare with me. You're free to believe whatever you want, and to have your own standards, but i think there is a point where the "its just a game" thing no longer applies. To me, its here.

[R3I]

Honestly, Americans are just overreacting. So it's okay showing Europe lying in ruins or China getting the •••• bombed out of it, but you can't even handle seeing the US Capitol in flames? Please.