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Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo? - 06-17-08

This is turning into a bit of a problem I think. On the front page articles, mostly the latest ones posted like the Microsoft releasing Mii like avatars for the Xbox 360, fanboys have been flaming at each other because Microsoft (and Sony) is apparently copying Nintendo's ideas and Nintendo should...

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Last edited by Budge007; 06-17-08 at 06:02 AM..

#50

By ultimaxtachi on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

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Originally Posted by Budge007

1. Pictochat is hardly a solid chat service, plus look at Yahoo Messenger and MSN?
2. How many GBA videos did Nintendo release? Sony hardly copied this.
3. This was years apart, and the Gameboy Camera and Eyetoy are COMPLETELY different devices. Ones for taking photos, ones for interacting with games.
4. I can only recall Pokemon Stadium doing this. Also, the PSP to PS3 connectivity is much different to the DS to Wii connectivity.
5. Once again, it's called updating.
6. .......
7. Now where did you get this idea? Xbox LIVE was around before the DS was even revealed.

Really all your points make no sense.

for 2. I met to say was Nintendo lets you watch videos on the GBA/DS before SONY did
and dude Xbox live was release after the DS and I didn`t even mention Xbox live so why you bring it up.

#51

By Budge007 on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

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Originally Posted by ultimaxtachi

for 2. I met to say was Nintendo lets you watch videos on the GBA/DS before SONY did
and dude Xbox live was release after the DS and I didn`t even mention Xbox live so why you bring it up.

Your spamming this forum by repeating yourself with fanboyist comments. If you keep doing it, I will infract you m'kay.

#52

By ultimaxtachi on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

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Originally Posted by Budge007

Your spamming this forum by repeating yourself with fanboyist comments. If you keep doing it, I will infract you m'kay.

How am I repeating myself with these comments ain`t that what comments about who do you think you are coward try to infract someone that not messing with you it don`t have nothing o do with you how I effected you anyway.:(

#53

By Kitreia on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

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Originally Posted by ultimaxtachi

1.You right create Pictochat on the DS SONY and Microsoft decided to create a chatroom.
2.When Nintendo let you watch GBA videos on both GBA/DS SONY let you do that too.
3.When Nintendo create a Game Boy Camera they let you take photos and SONY create an Eye Toy,and Microsoft create a Microsoft camera.
4.During N64 time Nintendo lets you used portable games you can connect to the N64 like GB games,Nintendo gamecube lets you used GBA games to connect to the gamecube,when the Wii release they ley you connect the Nintendo DS to the Wii,and SONY decided to lets you connect PSP to the PS3.
5. When Nintendo creted a second version of the DS, they lets you lite up the Nintendo DS and have more charge batteries and SONY did the same thing for the PSP.
6. DS download play from Nintendo lets you download demos and videos and SONY PSP and PS3 lets you do that.
7.If it wasn`t for the DS online with friend codes SONY and Microsoft wouldn`t have it.

So if it wasn`t for Nintendo`s ideas SONY and Microsoft wouldn`t be that popular without them and want Nintendo to sue both SONY and Microsoft for it.So whatever ideas Nintendo come up with SONY do the same thing but make it a little better for it.:)

1. Nintendo didn't great chatrooms, nor did they create the idea of using drawings in chatrooms. In that sense, Nintendo completely ripped off Microsoft, where MSN Messenger allowed that functionality through a plugin in MSN Messenger 6.0 (July 17th 2003).
2. Again, Nintendo didn't invent viewing of videos, 'or' demos. PC game demos were downloadable many years ago, I even remember playing a demo on my brother's Windows 3.6 machine, and music videos were placed in Music CD Singles quite alot, usually in Quicktime MOV format. Also, the viewing of videos on the GBA was made possible through a flash card far before those GBA Videos were released, and Nintendo didn't even bother giving the original developers credit where it was due.
3. All those cameras each hold a different purpose. The GBA Camera was mostly pointless, where as the Eye Toy was aimed at specific games available for the PS2 (and the newer PS Eye for the PS3 also for specific games available). The XBox Camera was made for XBox Live specifically, something Nintendo has NOT done (yet).
4. That's just business sense, they are not copying Nintendo in any way, as they are simply allowing connectivity to their own licensed, patented devices, in the SAME way Nintendo are doing. Nintendo do not hold the rights to an idea such as a handheld console, nor do they own the idea of interoperability (and you can find a few times this has been accomplished before Nintendo, with a simple Google Search).
5. Nintendo addressed issues to their handheld in a newer model, such as size and asthetics, and screen, Sony did the same with the PSP with battery life and other issues. It's not copying one company, it's business sense, in the same way there is more than one Linux OS. Linux originally had issues, and many people addressed these issues. People created one distro, and others addressed issues and bugs they found in those and released the same distro under a slighty changed name (e.g.: Knoppix, Knoppix STD, etc.).
6. Mortal Kombat is a fighting game, but hey, so is Street Fighter. Amazing, isn't it?
Game demos are not a concept created by Nintendo, and have existed, again, for a long time. You used to get FREE demo games for the Playstation and Playstation 2 quite alot. In magazines, through the post, handed out at the mall, hell in my local gaming store they had a bin literally full of game demo discs that you can pick up.
Also, I've been able to download videos to my PC for a long, long time. Nintendo didn't invent that concept either.
7. Sony and Microsoft don't have Friend Codes, and never will. Online gaming has existed long before the DS and Wii, you know.

Nintendo didn't copy anything, nor did Sony or Microsoft.
Each company came across ideas, and thought they were decent to impliment in their console(s). Nintendo didn't invent gaming, the PDP-1 did.

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By ultimaxtachi on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

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Originally Posted by Kitreia

1. Nintendo didn't do great at chatrooms, nor did they create the idea of using drawings in chatrooms. In that sense, Nintendo completely ripped off Microsoft, where MSN Messenger allowed that functionality through a plugin in MSN Messenger 6.0 (July 17th 2003).
2. Again, Nintendo didn't invent viewing of videos, 'or' demos. PC game demos were downloadable many years ago, I even remember playing a demo on my brother's Windows 3.6 machine, and music videos were placed in Music CD Singles quite alot, usually in Quicktime MOV format. Also, the viewing of videos on the GBA was made possible through a flash card far before those GBA Videos were released, and Nintendo didn't even bother giving the original developers credit where it was due.
3. All those cameras each hold a different purpose. The GBA Camera was mostly pointless, where as the Eye Toy was aimed at specific games available for the PS2 (and the newer PS Eye for the PS3 also for specific games available). The XBox Camera was made for XBox Live specifically, something Nintendo has NOT done (yet).
4. That's just business sense, they are not copying Nintendo in any way, as they are simply allowing connectivity to their own licensed, patented devices, in the SAME way Nintendo are doing. Nintendo do not hold the rights to an idea such as a handheld console, nor do they own the idea of interoperability (and you can find a few times this has been accomplished before Nintendo, with a simple Google Search).
5. Nintendo addressed issues to their handheld in a newer model, such as size and asthetics, and screen, Sony did the same with the PSP with battery life and other issues. It's not copying one company, it's business sense, in the same way there is more than one Linux OS. Linux originally had issues, and many people addressed these issues. People created one distro, and others addressed issues and bugs they found in those and released the same distro under a slighty changed name (e.g.: Knoppix, Knoppix STD, etc.).
6. Mortal Kombat is a fighting game, but hey, so is Street Fighter. Amazing, isn't it?
Game demos are not a concept created by Nintendo, and have existed, again, for a long time. You used to get FREE demo games for the Playstation and Playstation 2 quite alot. In magazines, through the post, handed out at the mall, hell in my local gaming store they had a bin literally full of game demo discs that you can pick up.
Also, I've been able to download videos to my PC for a long, long time. Nintendo didn't invent that concept either.
7. Sony and Microsoft don't have Friend Codes, and never will. Online gaming has existed long before the DS and Wii, you know.

Nintendo didn't copy anything, nor did Sony or Microsoft.
Each company came across ideas, and thought they were decent to impliment in their console(s). Nintendo didn't invent gaming, the PDP-1 did.

LOL wait a min I did not never say they were the first I say they the first game console but they didn`t it come with music/videos I just want Nintendo game consoles/portables to come with something to do with games not what don`t have noting to with games like the DVD player,musics but I can see the only reason why fans of SONY and Microsoft want he consoles so bad and I think I understand about your opinion a little now

#55

By Kitreia on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

It isn't opinion, dear.
No one ripped off anyone.

#56

By ultimaxtachi on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

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Originally Posted by Kitreia

It isn't opinion, dear.
No one ripped off anyone.

I didn`t call anything a rip off I was just complaning about the ideas consoles stole some people say some consoles are a rip-off because of how cheap it is like the Nintendo DS series they should create a another one and the DS is a rip-off because of the price but it should costs lesser than $100 and I don`t think Nintendo planned any price-cuts ya but when t come to stuff who started a business or a company who low on moneys and if they make a lot of money they decided to do price-cuts

#57

By Kitreia on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

Ripped off is another way of saying "stolen from", unless you fail English class.

None of what I said was opinion. No one stole ideas from anyone.

#58

By ShadowDragon on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

I still believe that the original idea came from Nintendo. What if Microsoft realised that Nintendo don't hold the copyrights to this and that's why they announced the Avatars (>.>)?

#59

By Kitreia on 06-19-08

Re: Are Sony and Microsoft really stealing ideas from Nintendo?

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Originally Posted by ShadowDragon

I still believe that the original idea came from Nintendo. What if Microsoft realised that Nintendo don't hold the copyrights to this and that's why they announced the Avatars (>.>)?

No it didn't.
Full sized animated avatars of people that were highly customisable were available for MSN Messenger years before the Mii service.
They were available when premium content went online for MSN Messenger along with Dynamic (animated) Display Pictures. They are still available, and they are still much more customisable than Mii's are.

Ovcourse, most people wouldn't defend Microsoft for some odd reason -_-;

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