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[ByakuganBodmon]

Manaphy in OU again :D

OU to Uber, then it's about time to bring it back down to OU again.

[Mirror FX]

no.
it's ability and mew/celebi/jirachi stat distribution bring it to uber status because of it's useage in rain...
I mean seriously...1 turn full recovery with no drawbacks?? not to mention it can go super bulky, or sweeper, or tank.

[UnknownSupreme]

If Smogon is spouting things about sending Manaphy to OU, then by gods will may their site get attacked by every virus known to man.

Cresselia doesn't really have that great of a Recovery move, plus with Tyranitar being around, I don't see why it should be moved to Uber, where it probably wouldn't be used at all.

[AGU003]

rain dance manaphy with tailglow/heartswap and rest is hell

[Mirror FX]

Originally Posted by UnknownSupreme

If Smogon is spouting things about sending Manaphy to OU, then by gods will may their site get attacked by every virus known to man.

Cresselia doesn't really have that great of a Recovery move, plus with Tyranitar being around, I don't see why it should be moved to Uber, where it probably wouldn't be used at all.

Although...HP fighting timid cune DOES exist....and it owns Ttar in the face.

[UnknownSupreme]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

Although...HP fighting timid cune DOES exist....and it owns Ttar in the face.

What exactly does this have to do with Cresselia? Just because everything to crap can KO T-Tar doesn't mean what T-Tar can counter is automatically disregarded.

Like I said before, Cresselia doesn't have a solid recovery option. Let alone with how popular Sand Stream is, I don't see why it should be tested in Ubers.

Moonlight only has 8 PP, which can easily run out. It's Moonlight (which will only heal 25% in SS etc), or a Rest-Talk set.

[Mirror FX]

Originally Posted by UnknownSupreme

What exactly does this have to do with Cresselia? Just because everything to crap can KO T-Tar doesn't mean what T-Tar can counter is automatically disregarded.

Like I said before, Cresselia doesn't have a solid recovery option. Let alone with how popular Sand Stream is, I don't see why it should be tested in Ubers.

Moonlight only has 8 PP, which can easily run out. It's Moonlight (which will only heal 25% in SS etc), or a Rest-Talk set.

I didn't mean to say cune, ROFL. I meant HP fighting cress, and restcress with blissey's aroma support, or even chesto berry is a force to be reckoned with.

[UnknownSupreme]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

I didn't mean to say cune, ROFL. I meant HP fighting cress, and restcress with blissey's aroma support, or even chesto berry is a force to be reckoned with.

Ah. xD

yeah, that can be good, I definitely see that. But you'll only be able to send Blissey in to use Aromatherapy if the opponent doesn't have a Physical threat in there. Even so, that would be a problematic thing to deal with.

[GriddleBone]

hmm, what about umbreon to OU? sucker punch makes both the slow curse/wish and wish passers better, giving them a powerful stab attack move that strikes first when there being attacked. it also makes the toxic set better, giving it an attack move to speed up damage between wishes while stalling and gives it an attack move so taunt isnt as much of a threat to it. I dont see why it wouldnt move to OU.

[Mirror FX]

hmm, that's a good point, Griddle, anyone else to comment on Umbreon going to OU??
it does kinda lower the amount of counters you can have against it, and with awesome defenses and HP, it takes hits like a champ, too