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FC's ((official)) ((updatable)) tier list for DPPt - 09-19-08

So with the release of pokemon Platinum, and Move tutors, as well as forms of pokemon we've never seen before coming into play, I feel it is necessary to put up a Tier list that will be updated as needed, for FC's use, since it seems that many of us here don't always agree with that the MLG sites have to say about anything. Please note that this will be used mainly for competitive battling, and that not everyone has to follow this, jsut state the rules of pokemon you will alow/dissallow in the battle.
Now what I did is looked at each pokemon's stats and movepools, as well as typage, and ability boost, and judged what tier It should be in with the current metagame, and, like I said, this IS going to change. I also took some advice from Smogon, Marriland, Serebii, and a few other places to help me get my facts straight, but it is fairly accurate, and hasn't changed a lot from typical lists, it's just had some raising/lowering of pokemon from certain tiers into others.
In time, I WILL be constructing an NU list, for for now, all those pokemon are placed in the UU category.
Here I have posted not only the pokemon in each individual tier, but their abilities, base stats as well, in the order of:
HP/Atk/Def/Sp Atk/Sp Def/Speed
now, without further ado, here is the list:

UBERS
Pokémon Abilities HP Atk Def SpA SpD Spe
Arceus- Multitype 120 120 120 120 120 120
Darkrai- Bad Dreams 70 90 90 135 90 125
Deoxys- Pressure 50 150 50 150 50 150
Deoxys-A- Pressure 50 180 20 180 20 150
Deoxys-D- Pressure 50 70 160 70 160 90
Deoxys-S- Pressure 50 95 90 95 90 180
Dialga- Pressure 100 120 120 150 100 90
Garchomp- Sand Veil 108 130 95 80 85 102
Giratina- Pressure 150 100 120 100 120 90
Groudon- Drought 100 150 140 100 90 90
Ho-oh- Pressure 106 130 90 110 154 90
Kyogre- Drizzle 100 100 90 150 140 90
Latios- Levitate 80 90 80 130 110 110
Lugia- Pressure 106 90 130 90 154 110
Manaphy- Hydration 100 100 100 100 100 100
Mew- Synchronize 100 100 100 100 100 100
Mewtwo- Pressure 106 110 90 154 90 130
Palkia- Pressure 90 120 100 150 120 100
Rayquaza- Air Lock 105 150 90 150 90 95
Wobbuffet- Shadow Tag 190 33 58 33 58 33

OU (OVERUSED)
Azelf- Levitate 75 125 70 125 70 115
Blissey- Natural Cure / Serene Grace 255 10 10 75 135 55
Breloom- Effect Spore / Poison Heal 60 130 80 60 60 70
Bronzong- Levitate / Heatproof 67 89 116 79 116 33
Celebi- Natural Cure 100 100 100 100 100 100
Cresselia- Levitate 120 70 120 75 130 85
Dragonite- Inner Focus 91 134 95 100 100 80
Dugtrio- Sand Veil / Arena Trap 35 80 50 50 70 120
Dusknoir- Pressure 45 100 135 65 135 45
Electivire- Motor Drive 75 123 67 95 85 95
Forretress- Sturdy 75 90 140 60 60 40
Gallade- Steadfast 68 125 65 65 115 80
Gengar- Levitate 60 65 60 130 75 110
Gliscor- Sand Veil / Hyper Cutter 75 95 125 45 75 95
Gyarados- Intimidate 95 125 79 60 100 81
Heatran- Flash Fire 91 90 106 130 106 77
Heracross- Guts / Swarm 80 125 75 40 95 85
Hippowdon- Sand Stream 108 112 118 68 72 47
Infernape- Blaze 76 104 71 104 71 108
Jirachi- Serene Grace 100 100 100 100 100 100
Jolteon- Volt Absorb 65 65 60 110 95 130
Latias(Without Soul Dew)- Levitate 80 80 90 110 130 110
Lucario- Inner Focus / Steadfast 70 110 70 115 70 90
Machamp- Guts / No Guard 90 130 80 65 85 55
Magnezone- Sturdy / Magnet Pull 70 70 115 130 90 60
Mamoswine- Oblivious / Snow Cloak 110 130 80 70 60 80
Metagross- Clear Body 80 135 130 95 90 70
Milotic- Marvel Scale 95 60 79 100 125 81
Porygon-Z- Download / Adaptibility 85 80 70 135 75 90
Roserade- Natural Cure / Poison Point 60 70 55 125 105 90
Salamence- Intimidate 95 135 80 110 80 100
Scizor- Swarm / Technician 70 130 100 55 80 65
Skarmory- Sturdy / Keen Eye 65 80 140 40 70 70
Slowbro Oblivious / Own Tempo 95 75 110 100 80 30
Snorlax- Immunity / Thick Fat 160 110 65 65 110 30
Spiritomb- Pressure 50 92 108 92 108 35
Starmie- Natural Cure / Illuminate 60 75 85 100 85 115
Suicune- Pressure 100 75 115 90 115 85
Swampert- Torrent 100 110 90 85 90 60
Tentacruel- Clear Body / Liquid Ooze 80 70 65 80 120 100
Togekiss- Serene Grace / Hustle 85 50 95 120 115 80
Tyranitar- Sand Stream 100 134 110 95 100 61
Umbreon- Synchronize 95 65 110 60 130 65
Vaporeon- Water Absorb 130 65 60 110 95 65
Weavile- Pressure 70 120 65 45 85 125
Yanmega- Speed Boost / Tinted Lens 86 76 86 116 56 95
Zapdos- Pressure 90 90 85 125 90 100


BL (BORDERLINE)
Abomasnow- Snow Warning 90 92 75 92 85 60
Absol Pressure- / Super Luck 65 130 60 75 60 75
Aerodacty-l Pressure / Rock Head 80 105 65 60 75 130
Alakazam- Synchronize / Inner Focus 55 50 45 135 85 120
Ambipom- Pickup / Technician 75 100 66 60 66 115
Arcanine- Flash Fire / Intimidate 90 110 80 100 80 95
Azumarill- Huge Power / Thick Fat 100 50 80 50 80 50
Blaziken- Blaze 80 120 70 110 70 80
Charizard- Blaze 78 84 78 109 85 100
Clefable- Cute Charm / Magic Guard 95 70 73 85 90 60
Cradily- Suction Cups 86 81 97 81 107 43
Crobat- Inner Focus 85 90 80 70 80 130
Donphan- Sturdy 90 120 120 60 60 50
Empoleon- Torrent 84 86 88 111 101 60
Entei- Pressure 115 115 85 90 75 100
Espeon- Synchronize 65 65 60 130 95 110
Exeggutor- Chlorophyll 95 95 85 125 65 55
Feraligatr- Torrent 85 105 100 79 83 78
Floatzel- Swift Swim 85 105 55 85 50 115
Flygon- Levitate 80 100 80 80 80 100
Gardevoir- Synchronize / Trace 68 65 65 125 115 80
Hariyama- Thick Fat / Guts 144 120 60 40 60 50
Honchkrow- Insomnia / Super Luck 100 125 52 105 52 71
Houndoom- Flash Fire / Early Bird 75 90 50 110 80 95
Jumpluff Chlorophyll / Leaf Guard 75 55 70 55 85 110
Kingdra- Swift Swim / Sniper 75 95 95 95 95 85
Lickilicky- Oblivious / Own Tempo 110 85 95 80 95 50
Ludicolo- Swift Swim / Rain Dish 80 70 70 90 100 70
Magmortar- Flame Body 75 95 67 125 95 83
Marowak- Lightningrod / Rock Head 60 80 110 50 80 45
Medicham- Pure Power 60 60 75 60 75 80
Mesprit- Levitate 80 105 105 105 105 80
Mismagius- Levitate 60 60 60 105 105 105
Moltres- Pressure 90 100 90 125 85 90
Ninjask- Speed Boost 61 90 45 50 50 160
Pinsir- Hyper Cutter / Mold Breaker 65 125 100 55 70 85
Porygon2- Trace / Download 85 80 90 105 95 60
Raikou- Pressure 90 85 75 115 100 115
Rampardos- Mold Breaker 97 165 60 65 50 58
Regice- Clear Body 80 50 100 100 200 50
Regigigas- Slow Start 110 160 110 80 110 100
Regirock- Clear Body 80 100 200 50 100 50
Registeel- Clear Body 80 75 150 75 150 50
Rhyperior- Lightningrod / Solid Rock 115 140 130 55 55 40
Sceptile- Overgrow 70 85 65 105 85 120
Sharpedo- Rough Skin 70 120 40 95 40 95
Shaymin- Natural Cure 100 100 100 100 100 100
Slaking- Truant 150 160 100 95 65 100
Slowking- Oblivious / Own Tempo 95 75 80 100 110 30
Smeargle- Own Tempo / Technician 55 20 35 20 45 75
Staraptor- Intimidate 85 120 70 50 50 100
Steelix- Sturdy / Rock Head 75 85 200 55 65 30
Swellow- Guts 60 85 60 50 50 125
Tangrowth- Chlorophyll / Leaf Guard 100 100 125 110 50 50
Tauros- Intimidate / Anger Point 75 100 95 40 70 110
Torterra- Overgrow 95 109 105 75 85 56
Typhlosion- Blaze 78 84 78 109 85 100
Ursaring- Guts / Quick Feet 90 130 75 75 75 55
Uxie- Levitate 75 75 130 75 130 95
Weezing- Levitate 65 90 120 85 70 60
Zangoose- Immunity 73 115 60 60 60 90


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UU (UNDERUSED)
Aggron- Sturdy / Rock Head 70 110 180 60 60 50
Altaria- Natural Cure 75 70 90 70 105 80
Ampharos- Static 90 75 75 115 90 55
Arbok- Intimidate / Shed Skin 60 85 69 65 79 80
Ariados- Insomnia / Swarm 70 90 70 60 60 40
Armaldo- Battle Armor 75 125 100 70 80 45
Articuno- Pressure 90 85 100 95 125 85
Banette- Insomnia / Frisk 64 115 65 83 63 65
Bastiodon- Sturdy 60 52 168 47 138 30
Beautifly- Swarm 60 70 50 90 50 65
Beedrill- Swarm 65 80 40 45 80 75
Bellossom- Chlorophyll 75 80 85 90 100 50
Bibarel- Simple / Unaware 79 85 60 55 60 71
Blastoise- Torrent 79 83 100 85 105 78
Butterfree- Compoundeyes 60 45 50 80 80 70
Cacturne- Sand Veil 70 115 60 115 60 55
Camerupt- Magma Armor / Solid Rock 70 100 70 105 75 40
Carnivine- Levitate 74 100 72 90 72 46
Castform- Forecast 70 70 70 70 70 70
Chatot- Keen Eye / Tangled Feet 76 65 45 92 42 91
Cherrim- Flower Gift 70 60 70 87 78 85
Chimecho- Levitate 65 50 70 95 80 65
Clamperl- Shell Armor 35 64 85 74 55 32
Claydol- Levitate 60 70 105 70 120 75
Cloyster- Shell Armor / Skill Link 50 95 180 85 45 70
Corsola- Natural Cure / Hustle 55 55 85 65 85 35
Crawdaunt- Hyper Cutter / Shell Armor 63 120 85 90 55 55
Delcatty- Cute Charm / Normalize 70 65 65 55 55 70
Delibird- Hustle / Vital Spirit 45 55 45 65 45 75
Dewgong- Thick Fat / Hydration 90 70 80 70 95 70
Ditto- Limber 48 48 48 48 48 48
Dodrio- Early Bird / Run Away 60 110 70 60 60 100
Drapion- Battle Armor / Sniper 70 90 110 60 75 95
Drifblim- Unburden / Aftermath 150 80 44 90 54 80
Dunsparce- Serene Grace / Run Away 100 70 70 65 65 45
Dustox- Shield Dust 60 50 70 50 90 65
Electrode- Static / Soundproof 60 50 70 80 80 140
Exploud- Soundproof 104 91 63 91 63 68
Farfetch'd- Inner Focus / Keen Eye 52 65 55 58 62 60
Fearow- Keen Eye 65 90 65 61 61 100
Flareon- Flash Fire 65 130 60 95 110 65
Froslass- Snow Cloak 70 80 70 80 70 110
Furret- Run Away / Keen Eye 85 76 64 45 55 90
Gastrodon- Sticky Hold / Storm Drain 111 83 68 92 82 39
Girafarig- Inner Focus / Early Bird 70 80 65 90 65 85
Glaceon- Snow Cloak 65 60 110 130 95 65
Glalie- Inner Focus / Ice Body 80 80 80 80 80 80
Golduck- Damp / Cloud Nine 80 82 78 95 80 85
Golem- Sturdy / Rock Head 80 110 130 55 65 45
Gorebyss- Swift Swim 55 84 105 114 75 52
Granbull- Intimidate / Quick Feet 90 120 75 60 60 45
Grumpig- Own Tempo / Thick Fat 80 45 65 90 110 80
Hitmonchan- Keen Eye / Iron Fist 50 105 79 35 110 76
Hitmonlee- Limber / Reckless 50 120 53 35 110 87
Hitmontop- Intimidate / Technician 50 95 95 35 110 70
Huntail- Swift Swim 55 104 105 94 75 52
Hypno- Insomnia / Forewarn 85 73 70 73 115 67
Illumise- Oblivious / Tinted Lens 65 47 55 73 75 85
Jynx- Oblivious / Forewarn 65 50 35 115 95 95
Kabutops- Battle Armor / Swift Swim 60 115 105 65 70 80
Kangaskhan- Early Bird / Scrappy 105 95 80 40 80 90
Kecleon- Color Change 60 90 70 60 120 40
Kingler- Hyper Cutter / Shell Armor 55 130 115 50 50 75
Kricketune- Swarm 77 85 51 55 51 65
Lanturn- Volt Absorb / Illuminate 125 58 58 76 76 67
Lapras- Water Absorb / Shell Armor 130 85 80 85 95 60
Leafeon- Leaf Guard 65 110 130 60 65 95
Ledian- Early Bird / Swarm 55 35 50 55 110 85
Linoone- Pickup / Gluttony 78 70 61 50 61 100
Lopunny- Cute Charm / Klutz 65 76 84 54 96 105
Lumineon- Swift Swim / Storm Drain 69 69 76 69 86 91
Lunatone- Levitate 70 55 65 95 85 70
Luvdisc- Swift Swim 43 30 55 40 65 97
Luxray- Intimidate / Rivalry 80 120 79 95 79 70
Magcargo- Magma Armor / Flame Body 50 50 120 80 80 30
Manectric- Static / Lightningrod 70 75 60 105 60 105
Mantine- Water Absorb / Swift Swim 65 40 70 80 140 70
Masquerain- Intimidate 70 60 62 80 82 60
Mawile- Intimidate / Hyper Cutter 50 85 85 55 55 50
Meganium- Overgrow 80 82 100 83 100 80
Mightyena- Intimidate / Quick Feet 70 90 70 60 60 70
Miltank- Thick Fat / Scrappy 95 80 105 40 70 100
Minun- Minus 60 40 50 75 85 95
Mothim- Swarm 70 94 50 94 50 66
Mr. Mime- Soundproof / Filter 40 45 65 100 120 90
Muk- Stench / Sticky Hold 105 105 75 65 100 50
Nidoking- Poison Point / Rivalry 81 92 77 85 75 85
Nidoqueen- Poison Point / Rivalry 90 82 87 75 85 76
Ninetales- Flash Fire 73 76 75 81 100 100
Noctowl- Insomnia / Keen Eye 100 50 50 76 96 70
Octillery- Suction Cups / Sniper 75 105 75 105 75 45
Omastar- Swift Swim / Shell Armor 70 60 125 115 70 55
Pachirisu- Run Away / Pickup 60 45 70 45 90 95
Parasect- Effect Spore / Dry Skin 60 95 80 60 80 30
Pelipper- Keen Eye 60 50 100 85 70 65
Persian- Limber / Technician 65 70 60 65 65 115
Phione- Hydration 80 80 80 80 80 80
Pidgeot- Keen Eye / Tangled Feet 83 80 75 70 70 91
Pikachu- Static 35 55 30 50 40 90
Plusle- Plus 60 50 40 85 75 95
Politoed- Damp / Water Absorb 90 75 75 90 100 70
Poliwrath- Damp / Water Absorb 90 85 95 70 90 70
Primeape- Vital Spirit / Anger Point 65 105 60 60 70 95
Probopass- Sturdy / Magnet Pull 60 55 145 75 150 40
Purugly- Own Tempo / Thick Fat 71 82 64 64 59 112
Quagsire- Damp / Water Absorb 95 85 85 65 65 35
Qwilfish- Swift Swim / Poison Point 65 95 75 55 55 85
Raichu- Static 60 90 55 90 80 100
Rapidash- Flash Fire / Run Away 65 100 70 80 80 105
Raticate- Run Away / Guts 55 81 60 50 70 97
Relicanth- Swift Swim / Rock Head 100 90 130 45 65 55
Rotom- Levitate 50 50 77 95 77 91
Sableye- Keen Eye / Stall 50 75 75 65 65 50
Sandslash- Sand Veil 75 100 110 45 55 65
Scyther- Swarm / Technician 70 110 80 55 80 105
Seaking- Swift Swim / Water Veil 80 92 65 65 80 68
Seviper- Shed Skin 73 100 60 100 60 65
Shedinja- Wonder Guard 1 90 45 30 30 40
Shiftry- Chlorophyll / Early Bird 90 100 60 90 60 80
Shuckle- Sturdy / Gluttony 20 10 230 10 230 5
Skuntank- Stench / Aftermath 103 93 67 71 61 84
Solrock- Levitate 70 95 85 55 65 70
Spinda- Own Tempo / Tangled Feet 60 60 60 60 60 60
Stantler- Intimidate / Frisk 73 95 62 85 65 85
Sudowoodo- Sturdy / Rock Head 70 100 115 30 65 30
Sunflora- Chlorophyll / Solar Power 75 75 55 105 85 30
Swalot- Sticky Hold / Liquid Ooze 100 73 83 73 83 55
Torkoal- White Smoke 70 85 140 85 70 20
Toxicroak- Dry Skin / Anticipation 83 106 65 86 65 85
Trapinch- Hyper Cutter / Arena Trap 45 100 45 45 45 10
Tropius- Chlorophyll / Solar Power 99 68 83 72 87 51
Unown- Levitate 48 72 48 72 48 48
Venomoth- Shield Dust / Tinted Lens 70 65 60 90 75 90
Venusaur- Overgrow 80 82 83 100 100 80
Vespiquen- Pressure 70 80 102 80 102 40
Victreebel- Chlorophyll 80 105 65 100 60 70
Vigoroth- Vital Spirit 80 80 80 55 55 90
Vileplume- Chlorophyll 75 80 85 100 90 50
Volbeat- Illuminate / Swarm 65 73 55 47 75 85
Wailord- Oblivious / Water Veil 170 90 45 90 45 60
Walrein- Thick Fat / Ice Body 110 80 90 95 90 65
Whiscash- Oblivious / Anticipation 110 78 73 76 71 60
Wigglytuff- Cute Charm 140 70 45 75 50 45
Wormadam- Anticipation 60 59 85 79 105 36
Wormadam-G- Anticipation 60 79 105 59 85 36
Wormadam-S- Anticipation 60 69 95 69 95 36
Xatu- Synchronize / Early Bird 65 75 70 95 70 95


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Gj, that must have taken awhile to type out!

Do you think you could do this, below each tier add a "NEW: so and so was added, so and so was removed" so it's easier to spot changes? It's not really necessary, but it'd be a cool little add on.

This should have a sticky on it.
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Very Nice Work Jibbeh.

agreed: should be stickied.
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Gj, that must have taken awhile to type out!

Do you think you could do this, below each tier add a "NEW: so and so was added, so and so was removed" so it's easier to spot changes? It's not really necessary, but it'd be a cool little add on.
I've actually been thinking about doing that, ESPECIALLY for when I make the NU list, it'll take a pretty good chunk out of UU, and I'll add in all the NFE forms of things into a tier if I ever get bored enough.
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Very Nice Work Jibbeh.

agreed: should be stickied.

Agreed much? should be stickied
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Wow, there's a lot of changes...

Nuts. Absol's in the hated BL tier.
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I disagree with deoxys-s being uber. It should be OU. One of the few functions of deoxys-s is a revenge killer. It isn't able to take hits well and in the UBER environment it just doesn't stack up. Asides from his great speed deoxys-s really isnt anything special.

Other than that I really like the list. Sticky for sure.
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nice jibbs, u always come threw for the good players left on this site, now FC has its own list up and running so people cant use the "oh thats just smogons not friendcodes" list phrase
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nice jibbs, u always come threw for the good players left on this site, now FC has its own list up and running so people cant use the "oh thats just smogons not friendcodes" list phrase
For the record, it's pretty much just like Smogon's...and Marriland's tier list is just one of Smogon's old ones that never got updated.

I'm serious.
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