Sumeet's first non-noobish RMT (sorta)

[rhadfii]

Scim... Really man wtf is wrong with you? Why do you always have to insult people? You aren't better then everybody else, stop acting like you are.

Anyways... on to the rate!

Originally Posted by Sumeet

Metagross@Lum Berrry/Leftovers? AKA TazerX
252 Attack, 252 Hp, 4 Defense
Adamant Nature
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Explosion
Bullet Punch

I would run Meteor Mash over Earthquake. That's what I run and it's really useful. You can 2hko most leads in the game with Meteor Mash / Bullet Punch. It's also really nice for Aerodactyl leads. You mash them while they taunt and then bullet punch afterwords and you prevent them from setting up SR. This also works against Azelf. I would run Leftovers > Lum Berry. Not a whole lot of people run Status moves on leads anymore.

Suicune@Leftovers AKA Oceanus
252 Hp, 252 Defense, Special Defense
Bold Nature
Calm Mind
Substitute
Ice Beam/Signal Beam?
Surf

I would make this a Crocune set. Rest, Sleep Talk, Calm Mind, Surf. You need something to absorb status. Celebi can absorb status to some degree but say for instance that you switch Celebi in on a Spore. Your opponent is going to know that you will switch out for natural cure. Crocune also doubles as a great late game threat. After a Calm Mind he is deadly and if he gets to low on health he can Rest up and start all over again.

Snorlax@Leftovers AKA Panda
252Hp, 252 Special Defense, 4 Defense
Adamant Nature
Curse
Fire Punch
Rest
Body Slam

I would run Crunch over Fire Punch. You're going to want something to hit Dusknoir with. Fire Punch just won't do enough. I assume that Fire Punch is for Scizor but Scizor is going to cause Snorlax problems if it doesnt have any curses so it isn't really needed.

Scizor@Leftovers AKA Pelops
252 Hp, 172, Special Defense, 84 Attack
Adamant Nature
Roost
Bullet Punch
X-scissor
Sword Dance

Looks good.


Heatran@Choice Scarf AKA Skorch
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
Naive Nature
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Explosion
Dragon Pulse

I would run Heatran. He gives you some nice resistances to abuse and he loves coming in on Fire attacks aimed at scizor.

Gengar@Life Orb AKA Goongar
40 Attack, 216 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Hasty Nature
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Explosion
Focus Blast

<3 This Gengar set. My favorite Special Sweeper evar!

That's the rate for now. I'll probably come back later and give a better rate, I've barely scratched the surface.

[rainxspear]

Ohh yeah btw if you can't get hp (ice) on infernape just add nasty plot it works well helps me ohko easily.
Okay why did you add 40 attack ev's on gengar when he's a sp. attacker like Heatran this is the standard ev set.
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[AGU003]

Originally Posted by rainxspear

Ohh yeah btw if you can't get hp (ice) on infernape just add nasty plot it works well helps me ohko easily.
Okay why did you add 40 attack ev's on gengar when he's a sp. attacker like Heatran this is the standard ev set.
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

40 attack evs because he has explosion and it ohkos blissey after sr damage

[jolt20]

Originally Posted by Sumeet

Metagross@Lum Berrry/Leftovers? AKA TazerX
252 Attack, 252 Hp, 4 Defense
Adamant Nature
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Explosion
Bullet Punch

The standard lead Metagross. Sets up rocks then does as much damage as he can pull off then explodes. He works pretty well and his rock help some other team members make some kills.


Suicune@Leftovers AKA Oceanus
252 Hp, 252 Defense, Special Defense
Bold Nature
Calm Mind
Substitute
Ice Beam/Signal Beam?
Surf

My physical switch in. He can absorb all sorts of hell and deal it back. Sub first no matter what on physcial Pokemon because they probably will switch. Get your free Calm Mind and Surf or Ice Beam to your heart's content.

or...


Celebii@Leftovers AKA Helios
252 Hp, 252 Defense, 4 Special Defense
Bold Nature
Recover
Leech Seed
Grass Knot
U-Turn/EarthPower?

I've done better with Suicune but this baby can absorb status. Leech Seed can wear an opponent down and U-turn when you can do nothing else. Grass Knot scares away the Swampert's that haven't been OHKO'd by Meta's Explosion.

Snorlax@Leftovers AKA Panda
252Hp, 252 Special Defense, 4 Defense
Adamant Nature
Curse
Fire Punch
Rest
Body Slam

This is the scariest Panda you will ever meet. Get in a couple of curses and rest the damage off. Fire Punch and Body Slam have coverage. My Special wall...yeah


Scizor@Leftovers AKA Pelops
252 Hp, 172, Special Defense, 84 Attack
Adamant Nature
Roost
Bullet Punch
X-scissor
Sword Dance

A regular Scizor with a little twist. With the ev's I developed with HectorTU, this thing can live three hits from a Thunderbolt from a LO Gengar and two against Focus Blast which is more than enough time to turn around and Bullet Punch it.


Infernape@Life Orb AKA I have no name for him looking for suggestions^^
64 Attack, 252 Speed, 178 (I think) Special Attack
Naive Nature
Taunt
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Flamethrower

Mixape with Hp Ice. Cleans up nice late game and enough Attack ev's to OHKO standard Bliss with Close Combat

or...


Heatran@Choice Scarf AKA Skorch
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
Naive Nature
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Explosion
Dragon Pulse

Once again standard without Hp Ice. Infernape has more freedom but Scarftran provides the extra speed this team lacks.

Gengar@Life Orb AKA Goongar
40 Attack, 216 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Hasty Nature
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Explosion
Focus Blast

My favorite Pokemon on this whole team. With 40 ev's in attack and Hasty Nature this Gengar can OHKO Blissey with Stealth Rock damage when using Explosion. The rest of the moves give great coverage.


Alright so looking for which Pokemon to use and anything else you guys can find wrong. This is more or less the team I used in the Top Ten tourney and did very well. Do NOT make useless posts. All help is appreciated. I posted this on Wiipals.net a while ago and this is the refined version.

k well first off you lack a phazer of any kind..gengar and heatran's explosions are both still weak, leaving meta's explosion as your only way of phazing. I would suggest roar on suicune.

and the team i would recommend for what you have right now would be metagross, infernape, suicune, gengar, scizor, snorlax

celebi would make it 3 pokes weak to fire, and heatran makes it so that blissey can wall you to death if gengar and meta are gone. IMO you only need 2 special attackers on a team so infernape over heatran. Also, drop taunt on mixape and go for hp ice.

the signal beam on suicune is a good idea, but honestly you dont really need it when you have scizor with x-scissor already, so just replace signal beam with roar if you wanted to take my phazing suggestion i mentioned earlier.

overall, 9/10 on this team. good work!

[Nolie]

Ok thanks now that was the best rate I've seen so far^^

[rainxspear]

Ice beam on cune over signal beam and earth power for celebi over u-turn earth-power take out those heatrans OHKO style.

[blackangle2]

Originally Posted by Scimjara

well we all know what u-turn does idiot there is not even a need for celebi on this team porygon2 with toxic/icebeam/discharge/recover works

hi want to be friends
:eek:

[AGU003]

Originally Posted by blackangle2

hi want to be friends
:eek:

.... sure why not

[gunfella]

well.still finishing my team training. so you can ignore my help if you want to.

i think you could change mixapes Hp ice with stone edge if you dont have it.it hits current dragons hard and added bonus is slaying gyarados.at least thats what i did to my ape.other ways are most likelly going on the road of nasty plot or sword dance.

[BlackFire22]

Scizor needs BrickBreak or SuperPower.
When a CS Dugtrio comes in, your ape and tran is trapped and killed.
Don;t use gengar because you'll just switch/get paralyze .


Metagross:
252 HP / 200 Atk / 56 Def /
or....
252 HP/ 56ATK/200 Def
Ice Punch/ThunderPunch/StealthRock/Bullet Punch

This is my own Metagross set. It once survived a Non Stabb SD earthquake.