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Rains Rmt Stop'in Sweep - 02-14-09

So hey guys, this is my pretty new team has landed me plenty of wins and not that many losses, I really like this team it helps me out pretty offensive and all. I think i need some changes to it and im not sure what they really are so i hop you rmt team because i need more wins.
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Metagross @ Lum Berry ***Colossus
252 HP / 244 Atk / 12 Def
Adamant Clear Body
-Meteor Mash
-Explosion
-Stealth Rocks
-Bullet Punch

Okay so this is my lead pretty basic, nothing special. Now he is also a great lead with his high attack and good defense he lives some of those crappy hits also he can live a fireblast/earthquake no doubt. He sets up those rocks which i like and he meteor mashs It hits pretty damn hard If the poke still lives i have bullet punch to take care of it if the opponents pokemon is faster than mine. Also explosion is great it ohko's blisseys due to the stealth rock damage also takes out those earth powering celebis easily. Thats his role play as the lead well mostly.


Salamence @ Life Orb ***Salamence (M)
232 Atk / 24 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Intimidate
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
-Outrage

Salamence one of my sweepers now he comes in handy alot he can also resist against fire and water. I can get a dragon dance or two in always mostly during switch out thats where it helps when he can outspeed scarfers im very happy because he then can kill those heatrans with earthquake because without the dragon dances there hp fire or dragon pulses take this guy out easily. Then outrage helps me against those other dragon types also helps kill other pokemon because it's a pretty powerful move. With outrage I kill Kingdra's, zapados, other salamences and anything else thats in my way because he's pretty fast.


Heatran @ Choice Scarf *** Heatran (M)
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Flash Fire
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Explosion
-Earth Power

Oh the famous heatran my basic sp. attacker also my good scarfer I love switching this guy in when i know the oppenents going to use a fire move it just ups my power easily with out doing a thing. Fire blast my strong hit will kill those steel and other types weak against fire in a OHKO because his sp. attack is amazing, well not amazing. Explosion is 250 power with heatrans sp. attack so high it will OHKO blissey with the help of metagross's SR help. Also Hp (ice) omg i don't know what i would do with out that kills those pokemon weak against ice mostly those gliscar and salamences. Thats this guys part hes really handy and earthpower kills other heatrans against him and magenzones too god this guy is great.


Gyrados @ leftovers *** Levithane (F)
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Intimidate
-Ice Fang/ Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

Another powerful sweeper now this guy pwns those zapados's trying to t-bolt my one stone edge and there gone also with the help of the SR damage. Kills most flying types with stone edge even salamence. Earthquake my good stab kills those ground types like heatran/tyranitar. Dragon Dance helps my speed to outspeed scarfers like salamence. Ice fang I like becuase it kills salamence with a easy OHKo not even that yache berry can stop this guy after he gets his DD's but i don't have a water move on him because he bluffs when ever i send him out against a fire type ofcourse they think ohh •••• a waterfalls going to come then they switch out and i hit then with the other stuff i got but i wonder if i need waterfall so your here to help me with that.


Scizor @ Life Orb *** Mullet (M)
32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Adamant Technician
-Bullet Punch
-X-Scissor
-Superpower
-Swords Dance

He's my physical attacker he can OHKO easily with his powerful attack but when ever i get a swords dance in hes the beast. Super power is great but i put it in over brick break is that it can OHKO Heatran Brick Break can't and then i will get killed but fire blast. I Like swords dance because it raises my attack to power full hieghts. The reason I put x- scissor is because it can kill celebi instead of u-turn also when i have this guy in i don't want to switch out because the sr will hit me hard and he has gotten enought swords dances to pwn already. This guy comes in as my late game sweeper and when i need him ymearly game sweeper. So watch out for Mullet he's dangerous and he pulls me out of a close game on top.


Latias @ Life Orb *** Latias (F)
112 HP / 204 SpA / 192 Spe
Timid Levitate
-Calm Mind
-Dragon Pulse
-Surf
-Recover
My pro she resists against the most common moves like electric, water, and fire moves but he has 5 weaknesses but thats now problem because like ice beam is super effective on her she lifes on of then also becuase hes fast i can pull some good moves like dragon pulse and kill those dragon types with her good sp. attack. Recover is awesome due too shes fast it helps me out alot. Surf kills those crappy fire types like infernape which i out speed no duhh, and heatran. Calm mind makes her the new super suicune lol it helps his sp. def to take alot of hits and his sp. att. that helps me ohko. This girl pulls off alot of tricks when im in trouble and guess who ends up on top thats me lolz. Shes a hell of a great poke on my team and can wall like bliss too i guess.

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Re: Rains Rmt Stop'in Sweep - 02-14-09

ok rain, you obviously have a very offensive based team, which is not bad at all. but what is bad, and i noticed this in our battle, is that every moveset and item is so predictable like i knew exactly what ur metagross was going to do. im not sure how to help you with this but u should think about it
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Re: Rains Rmt Stop'in Sweep - 02-15-09

Thats what is for you predict my common moves but then i over predict and BAM! (It's a 50/50 risk)
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I smell grammar/punctuation errors.

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Re: Rains Rmt Stop'in Sweep - 02-15-09

Very nice too know btw the ppl at smogon had no problem with it.
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Re: Rains Rmt Stop'in Sweep - 02-15-09

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Metagross @ Lum Berry ***Colossus
252 HP / 244 Atk / 12 Def
Adamant Clear Body
-Meteor Mash
-Explosion
-Stealth Rocks
-Bullet Punch

Okay so this is my lead pretty basic, nothing special. Now he is also a great lead with his high attack and good defense he lives some of those crappy hits also he can live a fireblast/earthquake no doubt. He sets up those rocks which i like and he meteor mashs It hits pretty damn hard If the poke still lives i have bullet punch to take care of it if the opponents pokemon is faster than mine. Also explosion is great it ohko's blisseys due to the stealth rock damage also takes out those earth powering celebis easily. Thats his role play as the lead well mostly.


Salamence @ Life Orb ***Salamence (M)
232 Atk / 24 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Intimidate
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
-Outrage

Salamence one of my sweepers now he comes in handy alot he can also resist against fire and water. I can get a dragon dance or two in always mostly during switch out thats where it helps when he can outspeed scarfers im very happy because he then can kill those heatrans with earthquake because without the dragon dances there hp fire or dragon pulses take this guy out easily. Then outrage helps me against those other dragon types also helps kill other pokemon because it's a pretty powerful move. With outrage I kill Kingdra's, zapados, other salamences and anything else thats in my way because he's pretty fast.


Heatran @ Choice Scarf *** Heatran (M)
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Flash Fire
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Explosion
-Earth Power

Oh the famous heatran my basic sp. attacker also my good scarfer I love switching this guy in when i know the oppenents going to use a fire move it just ups my power easily with out doing a thing. Fire blast my strong hit will kill those steel and other types weak against fire in a OHKO because his sp. attack is amazing, well not amazing. Explosion is 250 power with heatrans sp. attack so high it will OHKO blissey with the help of metagross's SR help. Also Hp (ice) omg i don't know what i would do with out that kills those pokemon weak against ice mostly those gliscar and salamences. Thats this guys part hes really handy and earthpower kills other heatrans against him and magenzones too god this guy is great.


Gyrados @ leftovers *** Levithane (F)
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Intimidate
-Ice Fang/ Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

Another powerful sweeper now this guy pwns those zapados's trying to t-bolt my one stone edge and there gone also with the help of the SR damage. Kills most flying types with stone edge even salamence. Earthquake my good stab kills those ground types like heatran/tyranitar. Dragon Dance helps my speed to outspeed scarfers like salamence. Ice fang I like becuase it kills salamence with a easy OHKo not even that yache berry can stop this guy after he gets his DD's but i don't have a water move on him because he bluffs when ever i send him out against a fire type ofcourse they think ohh •••• a waterfalls going to come then they switch out and i hit then with the other stuff i got but i wonder if i need waterfall so your here to help me with that.


Scizor @ Life Orb *** Mullet (M)
32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Adamant Technician
-Bullet Punch
-X-Scissor
-Superpower
-Swords Dance

He's my physical attacker he can OHKO easily with his powerful attack but when ever i get a swords dance in hes the beast. Super power is great but i put it in over brick break is that it can OHKO Heatran Brick Break can't and then i will get killed but fire blast. I Like swords dance because it raises my attack to power full hieghts. The reason I put x- scissor is because it can kill celebi instead of u-turn also when i have this guy in i don't want to switch out because the sr will hit me hard and he has gotten enought swords dances to pwn already. This guy comes in as my late game sweeper and when i need him ymearly game sweeper. So watch out for Mullet he's dangerous and he pulls me out of a close game on top.


Latias @ Life Orb *** Latias (F)
112 HP / 204 SpA / 192 Spe
Timid Levitate
-Calm Mind
-Dragon Pulse
-Surf
-Recover
My pro he resists against the most common moves like electric, water, and fire moves but he has 5 weaknesses but thats now problem because like ice beam is super effective on him he lifes on of then also becuase hes fast i can pull some good moves like dragon pulse and kill those dragon types with his good sp. attack. Recover is awesome due too hes fast it helps me out alot. Surf kills those crappy fire types like infernape which i out speed no duhh, and heatran. Calm mind makes him the new super suicune lol it helps his sp. def to take alot of hits and his sp. att. that helps me ohko. This guy pulls off alot of tricks when im in trouble and guess who ends up on top thats me lolz. Hes a hell of a great poke on my team and can wall like bliss too i guess.

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I am agreeing that your movesets are extremely predictable as they are all very standard sets. At the moment, your Metagross can't do jackshit to other lead Metagross which are pretty common. What I would like to do is add Earthquake over Meteor Mash so you can put lead Metagross under pressure. You may say that you want to KO lead Azelf, but activating Focus Sash is good enough because once you get your SR up, Azelf has no chance to return to the battle field. Also, I think Occa berry would help you out over Lum Berry because Metagross would never ever stay in on will-o-wisp, he is slow so paralyzation is fine, and you have no true Sleep Absorber so you might as well let him be asleep. Occa allows you to survive Azelf's Fire Blast, by the way.

Salamence is, well, Salamence.

Definitely go Waterfall over Ice Fang if you are offensive on your Gyarados. STAB helps you a lot more and ,besides, you have Stone Edge for Flyers. What I would like to see is for you to have a sleep absorber and Gyarados may work. Dragon Dance,Waterfall, Rest, Sleep Talk is what I advise. You may be totally walled by Vappy but Scizor can scare her off. Make your Gyarados Impish and have this spread, 252 HP/252 DEF/6 ATK. This gives you max bulkiness so you can stay in on as much as you can as Gyarados's SpD is already decent.

Now onto Heatran. Your Heatran is pretty predictable and once it is out, no •••••• is going to throw fire attacks at your Scizor because they know you will switch out Heatran. You should be careful of this when you use him against good people such as Aflora, Jolt, Ingo, or Chaos. They will predict your switch and hammer you with EQ. Anyways....I see Jolteon doing much better in this spot because it gives you an electric immunity which you do not have. You already have plenty of steel to absorb Outrage and you have Salamence and Gyarados to absorb the fire. This set should suffice... Charge Beam, Thunderbolt, Baton Pass, Hidden Power Grass. Also, use Life Orb. You use Charge Beam on something when you know there is no Electivire or Jolteon on their team. You can get a free boost and can really lay a hurting on ••••. Hidden Power Grass is a must because this gives you the ability to KO Swampert. If you do not like the Orb set than go with the standard Specs (Timid Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Baton Pass, HP Grass). Also, Baton Pass is needed so that you can escape some pursuiters with are very common. CB Scizor is one of them.

Scizor is amazing as it is but you may want to become less predictable as it is on 90% of teams. You may go U turn over X scissor for extra scouting because, with 1 SD, U turn KOs celebi. You may even go with the CB set because, this way, you can trap. Adamant Bullet Punch, Pursuit, U-Turn, Superpower. In your description, you say you can KO scizor, but in order to KO Scizor you will have to predict it because Heatran is faster than Scizor. Try to save scizor for late game is what I am saying.

Now for Latias. All Scizor has to do is switch in while you Sub and you are done with Pursuit. I, presonally, do not enjoy using Latias as she is not that great. Do deal with your major Zapdos weakness, I advise you put Blissey in the space for Latias. She may slow down your offensive team, but she will prevent Zapdos from wrecking you. You may want the Aromatherapy so that burners do not stop your sweeps. Aromatherapy, T wave/Toxic, Seismic Toss, and Softboiled are good. You can choose between T wave or Toxic to see which one supports your needs.

Overall, I think you should really think about adding Jolteon over Heatran, Blissey over Latias, and use the CB Scizor set. (CB Bullet Punch hurts like a •••••). Your whole team, before this rate, relied on Statting up. Sweepers are still powerful even without stat ups. Besides Metagross and Heatran, your whole team was statting up. Gyarados and Salamence are the only ones who should be using stat up moves. Anyways, enjoy the rate. READ IT ALL!
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Very nice too know btw the ppl at smogon had no problem with it.

Very nice to know. BTW, the people at smogon did have a problem with it. They are telling you to add a whole new Pokemon and to change items/movesets.
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I'm only saying that you should grammar/punctuation check before pressing the Post Reply button.
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Very nice to know. BTW, the people at smogon did have a problem with it. They are telling you to add a whole new Pokemon and to change items/movesets.
No i ment with grammer and all that good stuff and thank you for the help.
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I know I'm not the only one that doesn't like reading something epicly long with grammar that pars with a 2 year old... :/
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