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Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

Yeah, this is the first RMT ive posted here because i made a team that has worked pretty well in shoddy unlike other teams. I always felt like when one of my pokemon was unable to do something to an opponent i didnt have anything good enough to switch to. This is pretty much a team that relies a bit on switching, but not really required.

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Weavile @ focus sash
4 hp/252 atk/252 spe
adamant pressure
-Fake Out
-Ice Shard
-Counter
-Taunt

This weavile is my anti-lead. Fake out is used to destroy things that might have a sash and their chance of surviving; most notably ninjask. Weavile counters ninjask leads pretty well since they wont be able to use substitute and if they have no protect then its fake out and ice shard and its kod. Ice shard is for priority and counter for physical attackers such as scizor or machamp. Taunt helps prevent the ever present stealth rocks and stat boosts and helps especially against bronzong. Adamant and max attack for max ice shard damage and speed for taunt.



Magnezone @ choice scarf
6 hp/ 252 sp. atk/ 252 spe
timid magnet pull
-Thunderbolt
-Flash Cannon
-Hidden Power(Fire)
-Explosion

My revenge killer lol. Thunderbolt and Flash Cannon is for stab and HP fire for coverage. Explosion is for taking out a troublesome enemy or when i no longer need zone. This thing is amazing at taking out enemy steel types such as scizor and forretress since
they are then trapped and always slower than zone so they are forced to die while scizor can attempt a 4x resisted hit of bullet punch as a final move . Skarmory is walled to a lesser extant since it carries shed shell sometimes.



Heatran @ choice specs
42 hp/ 252 sp. atk/ 216 spe
modest flash fire
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Hidden Power(grass)
-Dragon Pulse

The best and most popular revenge killer. Heatran here, however, is not a revenge killer, but a pure special attacking powerhouse. Modest, spec fire blast is crazy powerful to begin with, but when it gets a flash fire boost it can even 2HKO suicune with it, unless its bulkier in sp. def. Earth Power takes out other heatran, but you will have to predict a Heatran switch in. HP grass takes out bulky waters like swampert and dragon pulse is for dragons like salamence. Weavile and Magnezone help Heatran by attracting some fire attacks for a flash fire boost to raise its fire damage more. Im also thinking about moving the hp to speed just to make Heatran a bit faster.



Electivire @ expert belt
6 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spe
Adamant Motor drive
-Thunderpunch
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake

The old super effective electivire. It has great coverage with its moves, but it can have some trouble against ghosts. Electivire depends on a predicted electric move to boost its 289 speed up to 433 so it can sweep. Gyarados fulfills this role pretty nicely since it attracts plenty of thunderbolters unaware of Electivire on my team.


Gyarados @ life orb
6 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spe
Adamant Intimidate
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake

Gyarados fulfills many roles on my team. If you look closely at it, you can see a
ridiculous ground and fighting weakness. Gyarados is immune to ground and resistant to fighting and has intimidate as well to soften blows more. Choice banded bullet punches or fighting or ground moves cause the opponent to switch while i get in a free Dragon Dance to either sweep with, or if gyrados would have trouble with the opponent switch to Electivire to obtain a speed boost to sweep with. Gyarados helps a lot in protecting zone, heatran, electivire, and blissey lol.


Blissey @ leftovers
252 def/ 216 sp. def/ 40 sp. atk
Calm Natural cure
-Aromatherapy
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled
-Toxic

Since i saw some of my pokemon couldnt take certain types of attacks, i put in blissey as my special wall for sp. atks that my other pokes cant take and as a cleric for status. More so if Magnezone gets paralyzed or gyarados. Ice beam is to hit dragons but common switch ins like scizor usually make the damage caused by Ice beam negiglible (i just cant spell it lol). Im thinking of switching it to flamethrower or another move so any suggestions for it? The obvious softboiled is there and instead of thunder wave i chose toxic to help wear down the latias and stat boosters i see a lot when i swich blissey in.

Yup. This is my team but i feel like there is plenty of room for improvement so ill take some suggestions. Also im using this on shoddy right now so there isnt much worry about obtaining something right now.
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

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Yeah, this is the first RMT ive posted here because i made a team that has worked pretty well in shoddy unlike other teams. I always felt like when one of my pokemon was unable to do something to an opponent i didnt have anything good enough to switch to. This is pretty much a team that relies a bit on switching, but not really required.

Team At a Glance.



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Weavile @ focus sash
4 hp/252 atk/252 spe
adamant pressure
-Fake Out
-Ice Shard
-Counter
-Taunt

This weavile is my anti-lead. Fake out is used to destroy things that might have a sash and their chance of surviving; most notably ninjask. Weavile counters ninjask leads pretty well since they wont be able to use substitute and if they have no protect then its fake out and ice shard and its kod. Ice shard is for priority and counter for physical attackers such as scizor or machamp. Taunt helps prevent the ever present stealth rocks and stat boosts and helps especially against bronzong. Adamant and max attack for max ice shard damage and speed for taunt.

I've noticed that the use of Weavile (and Electivire) has decreased :confused: This set seems pretty lethal especially with Weavile's awesome speed. Counter is good however it is rather useless if you have already been hit so if this is left alive late game then you may have a problem if it isn't on full HP. I would definately advise keeping as it is a ver good anti-lead.



Magnezone @ choice scarf
6 hp/ 252 sp. atk/ 252 spe
timid magnet pull
-Thunderbolt
-Flash Cannon
-Hidden Power(Fire)
-Explosion

My revenge killer lol. Thunderbolt and Flash Cannon is for stab and HP fire for coverage. Explosion is for taking out a troublesome enemy or when i no longer need zone. This thing is amazing at taking out enemy steel types such as scizor and forretress since
they are then trapped and always slower than zone so they are forced to die while scizor can attempt a 4x resisted hit of bullet punch as a final move . Skarmory is walled to a lesser extant since it carries shed shell sometimes.

Basic set really HP Fire is too predictable nowadays and if you use it and a Heatran is switched out there could be a problem, however you have many decent Heatran counters which lowers that risk.



Heatran @ choice specs
42 hp/ 252 sp. atk/ 216 spe
modest flash fire
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Hidden Power(grass)
-Dragon Pulse

The best and most popular revenge killer. Heatran here, however, is not a revenge killer, but a pure special attacking powerhouse. Modest, spec fire blast is crazy powerful to begin with, but when it gets a flash fire boost it can even 2HKO suicune with it, unless its bulkier in sp. def. Earth Power takes out other heatran, but you will have to predict a Heatran switch in. HP grass takes out bulky waters like swampert and dragon pulse is for dragons like salamence. Weavile and Magnezone help Heatran by attracting some fire attacks for a flash fire boost to raise its fire damage more. Im also thinking about moving the hp to speed just to make Heatran a bit faster.

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The best and most popular revenge killer.
Strangely I've not seen this set before. It has amazing coverage I can't think of anything it can't get a neutral hit on so it's pretty good.




Electivire @ expert belt
6 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spe
Adamant Motor drive
-Thunderpunch
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake

The old super effective electivire. It has great coverage with its moves, but it can have some trouble against ghosts. Electivire depends on a predicted electric move to boost its 289 speed up to 433 so it can sweep. Gyarados fulfills this role pretty nicely since it attracts plenty of thunderbolters unaware of Electivire on my team.

Ah the old Electivire/Gyarados combo it's less common nowadays so people won't predict it. I remember I got in a battle and absolutely owned this combo even after the Motor Drive Sweep - Good old Ice Shard.


Gyarados @ life orb
6 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spe
Adamant Intimidate
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake

Basic DD set really. As I've learnt 3 DDs = game so if you can get them in....

Gyarados fulfills many roles on my team. If you look closely at it, you can see a
ridiculous ground and fighting weakness. Gyarados is immune to ground and resistant to fighting and has intimidate as well to soften blows more. Choice banded bullet punches or fighting or ground moves cause the opponent to switch while i get in a free Dragon Dance to either sweep with, or if gyrados would have trouble with the opponent switch to Electivire to obtain a speed boost to sweep with. Gyarados helps a lot in protecting zone, heatran, electivire, and blissey lol.

Will finish rest tommorow.
Very good so far shall rate the rest as it comes :)
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

kl weavile i like the idea
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

Alright i finished the last poke, blissey, and yea weavile can ko salamences that have dragon danced up so thats why i like him ;)
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

Ok the biggest thing I noticed is that Gyrados is your only switch in for Ground attacks and without a spinner Gyrados will take heavy damage from Stealth Rock
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

i know stealth rock hurts but most lead stealth rockers are physical so i can taunt-counter them but most pokemon that can earthquake such as flygon and tyranitar are killed by priority and fighting,ground moves respectively so they are usually not too much of a problem.
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Ok the biggest thing I noticed is that Gyrados is your only switch in for Ground attacks and without a spinner Gyrados will take heavy damage from Stealth Rock
He doesnt need a spinner just for gyrados......
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

He has to 4x damage's to ground he's going to be switching to that Gyrados a lot and it's going to take a lot
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

You should get rid of toxic on bliss and add Stealth rocks because your going to need it.
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Re: Fslucarios First RMT - 02-16-09

actually gyarados has a 2x weakness to stealth rock (25% hp per switch) and i guess i could try stealth rocks. Also after a dragon dance gyrados can kill most electrics that come in with EQ ;)
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