my platinum team, drop a review

[kikagrip776]

first off is my physical sweeper
252-att 252-spd 6-def
leafeon-life orb
swords dance
arial ace
dig
leafblade

next is my special sweeper
typholsion-charcoal
252-att 252-spd 6-hp
flamethrower
thunderbolt
eruption
earthpower

next is my wall great at physical/special defense
bastiodon-lagging tail
252-def 252-sdef 6-hp
gyroball
magnetrise
avalanche
iron defens

next is my counter pkm
glaceon-nevermeltice
252-sdef 252-satt 6-def
icebeam
mirrorcoat
dig
aquatail

lastly is my trump card it doesnt die eassily

milotic-lax incense
252-sdef 252-def 6-spd
icebeam
toxic
surf
(undecided)

lastly is my setup pkm
gliscor- flame orb
252-spd 252-sdef 6-def
facade
stealthrock
roost
earthquake

well thats my team tell me what you think :)

[m1kefuerte]

TYPHLOSION WITH THUNDERBOLT IS A HACK

[caffeine11]

Originally Posted by kikagrip776

next is my special sweeper
typholsion-charcoal
252-att 252-spd 6-hp
flamethrower
thunderbolt
eruption
earthpower

MAJOR HACK!

[Ballade]

First off, post your team better. Name or image of the Pokemon first, then the item, then the rest. That includes posting up the natures. Second, make sure you're using actual attacks that your members can use, I don't know WHY you have Thunder BOLT on your Typholsion, maybe you meant Thunder PUNCH but since you said it was a SPECIAL sweeper, that makes it questionable as to why you're using a physical attack on a special set and not mixed or physical. Third, KNOW YOUR TIERS. Since you have Gliscor who is in the OU, your team is official an OU team, like it or not. Lastly, remember that the Pokemon you post up first will ALWAYS be assumed to be your lead unless stated otherwise IN THAT PLACE. Leaving X pokemon at the top while saying Y is the lead is NOT a good idea.

Originally Posted by kikagrip776

first off is my physical sweeper
252-att 252-spd 6-def
leafeon-life orb
swords dance
arial ace
dig
leafblade

This thing will get torn to shreds easily. First off, it's not doing anything to assist your team as the lead, and second, it's attacks are general crap, and third, it's incredibly slow, so it will NEVER go first. Aerodactly can easily Fire Blast/Fang this thing to death and leave you at 5-6 against you, just at the start.

next is my special sweeper
typholsion-charcoal
252-att 252-spd 6-hp
flamethrower
thunderbolt
eruption
earthpower

This thing literally has two attacks that it can't learn, T-Bolt and Earthpower. If you meant T-PUNCH and earthQUAKE, then that's different, but then it wouldn't be a SPECIAL sweeper now would it? Regardless, this thing shouldn't be using Charcoal anyway as the item. Life Orb/Expert Belt would be better, and you're better off with Flamethrower over Eruption, and then throwing another Special move on there to round things out.

next is my wall great at physical/special defense
bastiodon-lagging tail
252-def 252-sdef 6-hp
gyroball
magnetrise
avalanche
iron defens

Get rid of this thing ASAP. 4x weakness to Fighting AND Ground, not to mention it's incredibly slow and weak to Water as well, this thing will get hurt and die in no time. If you want a physical wall, Skarmory or Hippowdon work well. If you want a Special wall, call Blissey. If you want a Mixed or possible mixed wall, then Umbreon and Dusknoir are your best bets. Don't bother with the item either, it won't help increase ANYTHING's attack and with it being so slow, Avalanche will work anyway (plus, it's too slow to use Magnet Rise BEFORE the Ground attack unless you get lucky and the opponent doesn't have a Fighting OR Ground attack to instantly kill you with).

next is my counter pkm
glaceon-nevermeltice
252-sdef 252-satt 6-def
icebeam
mirrorcoat
dig
aquatail

Exactly WHAT is this thing countering? Not to mention, WHY do you have Dig on there? It's a physical attack and easily avoidable or used against you. Plus the item only increases Icebeam's attack power but why bother?

lastly is my trump card it doesnt die eassily

milotic-lax incense
252-sdef 252-def 6-spd
icebeam
toxic
surf
(undecided)

FYI, this thing CAN die easily. Since Steel types have no problem going into Icebeam or Toxic, Lucario or Scizor can just Swords Dance away until they're ready to kill. Lax Incense is useless, and in all honesty, this thing shouldn't be used the way you're using it.

lastly is my setup pkm
gliscor- flame orb
252-spd 252-sdef 6-def
facade
stealthrock
roost
earthquake

Yeah, this thing is owned by Gengar easily. First off all, Flame Orb decreases attack, so Gliscor is ALREADY screwed over just by that little fact, secondly, it's NOT the lead, and considering the father down the list you go generally means the later the thing goes out, setting up Stealth Rock right near the end is pointless.

I'll be blunt, this team is terrible and horrible. One, you have a fairly hefty Ground weakness with only one real counter, a fighting weakness, and in general, you're using some of the worst Pokemon you could pick to do the job. If you want to keep the typing, then:

Replace Leafeon with Breloom or Roserade
Replace Typholsion with Heatran or Infernape
Replace Glaceon with Weavile or Mamoswine
Replace Bastiodon with Scizor (Lucario will end up adding to the Ground weakness.
Replace Milotic with Starmie or Empoleon
and change Gliscor's moves almost entirely. Keep EQ, but everything else GOES.

Originally Posted by m1kefuerte

TYPHLOSION WITH THUNDERBOLT IS A HACK

Dude, considering how it can't learn Earthpower, and the rest of the attacks end up being crap anyway, it was probably a screw up by the TC.

[kikagrip776]

wow harsh i feel dumb about the typhlosion thing your probably right i got it through a trade with my super gameshark using friend go figure

also my accuracy of the order my team would go out in was horrible it was late and im using my freakin dsi to type all this so eexcuse me if i left anything out it wasnt intentional and most of my pkm have a timid nature excluding gliscor and leafeon who have a naughty nature

i also forgot to mention that this team will be used for double battles there moves work somewhat well together

the order my pokemon would go out in is: gliscor and bastiodon first. then typholsion and leafeon, finnaly would be glaceon and milotic in resrve. gliscor has the flameorb because it doubles facades power admittably gengar would destroy but my glaceon would kill it with mirror coat or 2 icebeams after its damage from stealth rock. bastiodon is crappy i got carried away looking at its stats and exelent defenses and forgot about its super weakness to two types and weakness to a third ill end up switching him.

since it turns out my typhlosions hacked ill have to get another one anyone havea good move list for him?

as far as milotic goes im lost with what moves to teach it but overall its a good pkm right?

glaceon was my counter because it can survive alot of damage and either use mirror coat to kill the other guy (if damaged that bad) or ice beam to deal out some damge. dig and aquatail gotta go i guess i'd apprecate any suggestions

next how slow is leafeon? it allways goes first when i use it and its my physical sweeper cuz of its speed and pretty good attack its defense isnt bad either

right now im on level 90 so i havent ev trained yet so i guess its not too late to switch my team up :) but i guess this is why i 8 and 12 i really dont want to switch my team up cuz theese are my favorites excluding bastiodon so if someoned help me improve them itd be great also what the heck is ou and uu?

[Ballade]

My mistake, Glaceon was the slow one, but still, Leafeon isn't that good of a sweeper. Better alternatives exist everywhere else. Like I said before, the first pokemon you post up is the lead, unless stated otherwise WITH IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE FIRST ONE. You also have this conception that Mirror Coat deals damage based on the remaining about of HP you have or something. That's not how it works, it takes the damage that was just dealt to you, doubles it, and flings it back at the enemy.

As for Double Battles, screw that idea right now, because that's an entirely different beast that no one feels like helping you out with due to the chaos that can occur in those things.

Read the beginner's guide, it's stickied for a reason. READ IT ALL. I didn't type that thing up and go through the trouble of saving and editing it for no reason, as well as managing to get a mod to sticky the thread ChaosZR made (or TheDude as he's known now) which contained the beginner's guide I typed up he copy/pasted (with my permission to clear things before anyone says anything).

I'm sorry you won't be able to use your favorite Pokemon, but the tiers exist for a reason and since most of your members are in the UU or lower, then just switch out Gliscor for something else.

[m1kefuerte]

alright, now i can give a decent rate. Im sorry, but like ballade said, its better if you just stick in the lower tiers. Heres the tier list for FC: http://www.friendcodes.com/forums/po...list-of-d.html

As for the team, im not an expert in double battles, and i dont know that many people who really take their time to partake in double battles, but ill see what i can do:

Leafeon's ok, but dig is a horrible move. Aerial ace is fine, so you can take out bugs, and more importantly, blaziken, after a swords dance. X-scissor is suggested over dig for more coverage against other grass types, notably ludicolo. You might want another item though. In my opinion though, sceptile fills this role better, because of its superioir speed and movepool. If you really must have a physical grass type, try this:
Sceptile@???
Jolly, 252 atk 252 spe 6 hp/def
Leaf blade
Thunderpunch
Stone edge
Swords dance

Bring in sceptile on a pokemon with a grass weakness, SD on the switch and sweep, and being one of the few pokemon able to get close to swellow is saying something

since your taking out typhlosion anyway, you might want to consider a real fire pokemon the CAN learn thunderbolt, namely, magmortar. If you want magmortar to be a special sweeper, try this set:
Magmortar@???
Modest/Timid, 252 sp atk 252 spe 6 sp def
Thunderbolt
Lava plume/Fire blast
focus blast
HP ice

this is the IDEAL set, for the most sweeping potential, though it is slower than typhlosion, its superior move pool remedies that.

You might want to switch bastiodon out for a better wall, and in the lower tiers, not many can outshine umbreon as a mixed wall. This is a tried and tested(by me) mixed tank set:
Umbreon@leftovers
sassy/careful, 252 hp 92 def 164 sp def
Wish
Baton pass
Mean look
Toxic/yawn/protect

This set can outstall a lot of things, just stay away from taunt, and SE fighting and bug attacks

Glaceon might be good pokemon, but its main niche is in Hail teams, so you could do better. Also, using mirror coat in double battles is VERY difficult, and more often than not, theyll hit you with a physical attack anyway. Im not sure on what to change, since im not really good with double battles

This is my favorite milotic set:
Milotic@Leftovers
Bold, 148 hp 252 def 108 spa
Hypnosis
Recover
Surf
Ice beam/ HP electric

does she need and explanation? sleep the incoming counter, and hit back with your attacks. Once they think they got you down, recover off the damage and tank another time

Now, gliscor is in OU, which this team doesnt want to be in. As far as set-up, not many can go up against Claydol:
Claydol@leftovers
Bold, 252 hp 144 def 114 sp atk
Rapid spin
Stealth rock
Earth power
Shadow ball/Explosion/toxic

Standard rapid spinner, but with explosion. Im not sure if explosion is single target, but if its not, you can wipe the whole field if done right

As far as i can see, you lack team synergy, ergo, a team combo. Most of the double battle teams i see run something like a jumpluff with worry seed and a LOslaking. Worry seed slaking, and BOOM you have one of the most powerful pokemon in the game, sweeping wherever he goes. Combos are in important part in double battling. Not many people here, as far as i know, dont rate double battle teams because if the many variables to consider. You might want to rethink your strategy first. GL with the team, and hope that helped ;)

[gottabethebest1]

ballade, you sound like a total expert, so i want to ask your advice on this team i am currently raising. i made a list and narrowed it down, and it has taken me like 2 weeks to get to this. i am raising these guys for the double battle championship next year and i want to ask some expert opinions so could you rate mine please?

ok so here's the team that i made for next year's championships:

1. Leafeon-grass
leaf guard
item-?
moves-
energy ball-grass-80/100
x-scissor-bug-80/100
synthesis-grass-heal
protect-normal-self

2. Metagross-steel/psychic
clear body
item-?
moves-
magnet rise-electric-imm. to ground
psychic-psychic-90/100
earthquake-ground-100/100
hammer arm-fighting-100/90

3. Blissey-normal
natural cure or serene grace
item-focus sash
moves-
heal bell-normal-stat heal
softboiled-normal-heal
psychic-psychic-90/100
flamethrower-fire-95/100

4. Swampert- water/ground
torrent
item- ?
moves-
earthquake-ground-100/100
toxic-poison-condition
surf-water-95/100
ice beam-ice-95/100

5. Zapdos- electric/flying
pressure
item- damp rock
moves-
thunder-electric-120/70
rain dance-water-weat. con.
fly-flying-90/95
steel wing-steel-70/90

6. Typhlosion-fire
blaze
item- heat rock
moves-
solar beam-grass-120/100
sunny day-fire-weat. con.
flamethrower-fire-95/100
earthquake-ground-100/100

[Hackzor]

Where did you get the typhlosion, it's not legit

[gottabethebest1]

yes it is, and i'm raising it. i'm breeding it