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Re: Claws of lightning: The revenge of luxray :3 - 09-09-09

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You aren't hated because you suck, quite a few players can suck and be treated with plenty respect. If anything, the reason is because you don't seem to know what you're doing half the time when it comes to RMT threads in general. Did you even BOTHER to read the beginner's guide? I mean, seriously, in order to rate the team fully, we need the EV's. It's not that hard to calculate the needed ones anyway. Heck, half the time you only need to put 252/252 for the offensive stat being used and then speed for sweepers, and then use a smogon set of EV's for anything that isn't meant to attack like a mad-man. You also have hardly any idea of attack sets to really use. Seriously, just look at almost any other team and just get a general idea of what to do with your team.
I read the guide. Twice. I'm gonna follow AJs advice with the evs.
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Re: Claws of lightning: The revenge of luxray :3 - 09-09-09

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Just wondering but why can't you post the EVs? We can rate the team before it's made you know. I make teams to be rated but sometimes don't even make them.

You should follow that.^

And honestly whats the point, I see your keep on using those plate items, but they don't help out the Pokemon whatsoever. Plates only increase the power of the type attack is bases around by 10% It's kinda obvious to use a Life Orb instead since it powers all-type attacking attacks by 30%.

Give Yanmega a more of a opening set.

Yanmega @ Focus Sash
Modest Nature
Ev's: 104 Def / 252 SpA / 152 Spe
Ability: Speed Boost
Protect
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Hypnosis / Hidden Power Ground

This set has the potential to be an excellent lead in both the UU and the OU metagame, because it can easily scout out attacks while incapacitating other leads with Hypnosis. Many leads in today’s metagame are over-centralized (meaning that they are specifically tailored to beat each other), such as Mamoswine, Occa Berry Metagross, Shuca Berry Heatran, etc. In the midst of it all, Yanmega's potential as a lead has been almost completely forgotten. Stealth Rock is absent from the scene on turn 1, making Yanmega's job easier. Other common leads like Hippowdon, Swampert, and Bronzong, who all carry Stealth Rock, can be dispatched by Hypnosis, preventing them from setting up the entry hazard that plagues Yanmega. If you are not facing a slow, defensive enemy, Protect first turn, as it gives Yanmega a free Speed Boost. It also allows you to scout a Choice item user's attack and switch to the appropriate counter if necessary. Be careful, though — a smart opponent may try to outpredict you and set up Stealth Rock instead.

In UU, Yanmega will be up against an entirely different crowd when used as a lead. However, it still fares excellently. It manages to easily beat out the three common leads in UU (Uxie, Ambipom, and Roserade), making Yanmega a very solid choice to lead your team. Against Ambipom, Yanmega Protects against the inevitable Fake Out and gains a Speed Boost. From there, Bug Buzz deals Ambipom a clean 2HKO, whereas Ambipom's Silk Scarf Return will never OHKO (even if Ambipom lands an impromptu critical hit, Focus Sash allows Yanmega to still come out on top). When faced with Uxie, Yanmega should always Protect on the first turn, scouting for TrickScarf variants. If faced with a TrickScarf Uxie locked into to Trick, then Yanmega should U-turn out to an appropriate teammate. Otherwise, Yanmega’s STAB Bug Buzz 2HKOs Uxie cleanly. Against a Roserade lead, Yanmega can scout which move Roserade is trying to employ with Protect, then OHKO most variants with Air Slash.

Although Protect and Hypnosis work really well together on a leading Yanmega, using both means it is easier to wall (and also, Hypnosis has unreliable accuracy), so you can drop one of them in favor of Hidden Power or Psychic. Hidden Power Ground annihilates Heatran and Magnezone in OU, and takes care of Registeel and Steelix in UU. Focus Sash is by far the superior item choice in UU, as it allows Yanmega to come out on top against various leads, which is essential for its survival. In OU, however, one can choose Wise Glasses as an alternate option to give Yanmega's attacks some more kick. The KOs on Heatran and Magnezone are based on having at least a Wise Glasses boost. If you choose to carry Hidden Power, then Expert Belt is a good option as it helps to guarantee a KO on the intended targets. Leftovers isn't quite as useful, but it will at least negate Sandstorm or Hail damage, and if damaging weather is not present it can offer some minimal healing with Protect.

The EV spread is geared towards use in OU. 104 Defense EVs ensure that Meteor Mash followed by Bullet Punch from LeadGross will never KO, which is a huge asset to this Yanmega. Other notable achievements accomplished by the Def EVs include being able to stomach three of LO Scizor's Bullet Punches and two of CB Azumarill's Aqua Jets — quite a feat for a (albeit overgrown) dragonfly. Maximum Speed isn't really needed due to Speed Boost, so 152 EVs suffice, allowing Yanmega to comfortably outspeed Pokemon in the base 130 Speed group after a Speed Boost. Special Attack, obviously, is maximized. When used in UU, the Defense EVs become less useful, so one can shift 80 EVs into Speed, which allows it to outspeed lead Electrode after a Speed Boost. This boost is influential, as Electrode is one of the very few leads that can combat Yanmega and come out on top.

Because this Yanmega is used exclusively as a suicide lead, extensive team support is unnecessary. Yanmega only requires insurance against the few leads it cannot come out on top against. Although more or less every lead can be struck by Hypnosis, it only provides a temporary means of subduing the enemy leads that utilize Trick to hamper Yanmega with a Choice item, who can easily defeat it, especially if they choose to Trick Choice Band or Choice Scarf. Prediction is essential, and switching to a Pokemon who can benefit from the item, such as Absol for Choice Band, can remove this liability. Electrode is one of the small handful of UU leads that can trash Yanmega; it is immune to Bug Buzz (thanks to Soundproof), resists Air Slash, and can OHKO with a STAB Electric-type attack. Thankfully, Electrode's defenses are quite shabby, and it can be dealt with by means of Scarfed revenge-killers, or Pokemon like Steelix, who comfortably wall all its attacks (including Explosion).

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Thanks a lot for the advice. I'll definitely use protect.
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Re: Claws of lightning: The revenge of luxray :3 - 09-09-09

Everything your particular Dragonite does Salamence can do better so why not use Salamence?

Salamence@Life Orb
4 Hp / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Adamant Nature
Dragon Dance|Earthquake|Outrage|Stone Edge

If you notice, I didn't give it a fire move for the simple reason your team covers Scizor fine by itself.

You have no Scarf Pokemon, which can really screw you over. Why don't you Scarf that Typlosion? I suggest this...

Typlosion@Choice Scarf
144 Attack / 252 Special Attack / 112 Speed
Timid Nature
Eruption|Focus Punch|Earthquake|Overheat

Everything here is pretty basic but you should be able to have some sort of grasp to use Focus Punch correctly. Overheat is for when you run out of Hp for Eruption to work effectively.

Now I really hate to do this, seeing how Luxuray is the crux of your team but there is absolutely nothing it can do better than Electivire. I think you'd like to add the Physical set more but I suggest the mix set. Anywho, I'll post both and you can pick for yourself.

Electivire@Expert Belt
4 Hp / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Adamant Nature
Thunderpunch|Cross Chop|Earthquake|Ice Punch

Now for the one I suggest you use

Electivire@Expert Belt
36 Attack / 252 Special Attack / 220 Speed
Mild Nature
Thunderbolt|Cross Chop|Hidden Power [Grass]|Flamethrower

Now, I've used both these sets before to great success but the second is far superior. After you lure an Electric move out with Skarmory or Yanmega or stray Blissey Thunder Wave's, Electivire outspeeds even Scarf Heatran among others. With this sets superior coverage he can sweep entire teams if their main counters have been dealt with prior. This also covers Swampert for you. Now with this, I want you to run Pursuit over Night Slash on Heracross. Pursuit allows you to keep major threats such as Latias and Celebi. Scarf Latias is a huge huge threat to your team and Pursuit definately helps you a lot.

With that I'd like you to put Life Orb on Heracross to put more Pressure on Latias.

Yanmega has quite a few more usefull moves than Giga Drain. Air Slash and Hypnosis come to mind. Hidden Powers would be welcome as well.

Well those are my suggestions, good luck with the team =/




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Re: Claws of lightning: The revenge of luxray :3 - 09-09-09

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Everything your particular Dragonite does Salamence can do better so why not use Salamence?

Salamence@Life Orb
4 Hp / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Adamant Nature
Dragon Dance|Earthquake|Outrage|Stone Edge

If you notice, I didn't give it a fire move for the simple reason your team covers Scizor fine by itself.

You have no Scarf Pokemon, which can really screw you over. Why don't you Scarf that Typlosion? I suggest this...

Typlosion@Choice Scarf
144 Attack / 252 Special Attack / 112 Speed
Timid Nature
Eruption|Focus Punch|Earthquake|Overheat

Everything here is pretty basic but you should be able to have some sort of grasp to use Focus Punch correctly. Overheat is for when you run out of Hp for Eruption to work effectively.

Now I really hate to do this, seeing how Luxuray is the crux of your team but there is absolutely nothing it can do better than Electivire. I think you'd like to add the Physical set more but I suggest the mix set. Anywho, I'll post both and you can pick for yourself.

Electivire@Expert Belt
4 Hp / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Adamant Nature
Thunderpunch|Cross Chop|Earthquake|Ice Punch

Now for the one I suggest you use

Electivire@Expert Belt
36 Attack / 252 Special Attack / 220 Speed
Mild Nature
Thunderbolt|Cross Chop|Hidden Power [Grass]|Flamethrower

Now, I've used both these sets before to great success but the second is far superior. After you lure an Electric move out with Skarmory or Yanmega or stray Blissey Thunder Wave's, Electivire outspeeds even Scarf Heatran among others. With this sets superior coverage he can sweep entire teams if their main counters have been dealt with prior. This also covers Swampert for you. Now with this, I want you to run Pursuit over Night Slash on Heracross. Pursuit allows you to keep major threats such as Latias and Celebi. Scarf Latias is a huge huge threat to your team and Pursuit definately helps you a lot.

With that I'd like you to put Life Orb on Heracross to put more Pressure on Latias.

Yanmega has quite a few more usefull moves than Giga Drain. Air Slash and Hypnosis come to mind. Hidden Powers would be welcome as well.

Well those are my suggestions, good luck with the team =/
Thanks Sumeet. But no, Luxray will NOT be changed. *pokes title* I'm trying to defend Luxray rights against the electivire oppression! Scarfing Typhlosion? Why not. Pursuit... Okay. Fine. But I don't see why any psychic types would run from heracross.
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Re: Claws of lightning: The revenge of luxray :3 - 09-09-09

Eh I can understand that but if you'd like to make a more serious team in the future with the same build, Electivire's probably your man.
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Eh I can understand that but if you'd like to make a more serious team in the future with the same build, Electivire's probably your man.
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Re: Claws of lightning: The revenge of luxray :3 - 09-09-09

I think electivire is better over luxaray though sorry
Electivire is more faster and bulkier
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Re: Claws of lightning: The revenge of luxray :3 - 09-09-09

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