[getrdunne]

I am actually very proud of this new team. it has been quite successful so far but theres always room for improvement. Comment however you would like.

my team is

Donphan @lefties (Impish)
Ice Shard
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
EQ

HP Def Atk

Garchomp (yachee berry) Adamant

Swords Dance
Fire Fang
EQ
Dragon Claw

EVs in Atk Spd Hp

Togekiss (Calm) @Razor Fang Serene Grace
Thunderwave
Roost
Air Slash
Aura Sphere

EVs in hp sp atk spd (i think)

Mismagius (Calm) @lefties
Shadow Ball
Tbolt
WoW
Pain Split

EVs in sp Def Hp spd

Umbreon (careful) @lefties

Payback
Moonlight
Yawn
Curse
Evs in HP Def Atk

Starmie (Timid) lefties (may change in the near future)
Ice Beam/surf
Recover
Tbolt
Rapid Spin
EVs in spd hp sp def

im trying to decide between ice beam and surf...surf has STAB but i think i want ice beam to counter dragons more incase donphan fails (ice shard doesnt do a whole lot of damage anyway)


anyway i think thats everybody tell me what you think

here are the roles each one plays
*Donphan is a rocker/spinner and defensive wall/chompitemence counter
*Starmie is a spinner/sp tank
*Togekiss is a paraflincher
*Garchomp is Physical Sweeper by means of SD
*Mismagius is a sp wall and burner (considering switching to cresellia but then i would have all my main walls weak against bugs)
*Umbreon is a Curser wall

let me know what you guys think

[m1kefuerte]

Ok, here are my suggestions:
Donphan's a rapid spinner. Lefties
Garchomp's fine. expert belt would be helpful. Dont use hax items. These are items that rely on luck to work.
Same with everything else, LEFTIES ON A WHOLE TEAM IS NOT A SMART THING TO DO. U lack the needed hits of a sweeper. Too many walls and tanks

[getrdunne]

Originally Posted by m1kefuerte

Ok, here are my suggestions:
Donphan's a rapid spinner. Lefties
Garchomp's fine. expert belt would be helpful. Dont use hax items. These are items that rely on luck to work.
Same with everything else, LEFTIES ON A WHOLE TEAM IS NOT A SMART THING TO DO. U lack the needed hits of a sweeper. Too many walls and tanks

which ones would you suggest changing? i used to have a gengar with focus sash in place of mismagius...i just wanted to try something new

[getrdunne]

does anyboyd have any more suggestions?

[Levi]

Great team! Just make sure donphan has a quick claw or something for its speed.

[getrdunne]

Originally Posted by RICHARDaDragoon

Great team! Just make sure donphan has a quick claw or something for its speed.

thanks thats a good idea...i never really htought about putting a QC on donphan...i always thought lefties were the way to go

the only problem is quick claw is a hax item that people can call a hack if it does hit first...i dunno

what other options are there?

[Moniker]

Originally Posted by RICHARDaDragoon

Great team! Just make sure donphan has a quick claw or something for its speed.

Yep, first of all, Quick Claw is a hax item and is banned from standard play. Second of all, Donphan doesn't need speed. I'd suggest Leftovers to maximize its tank usage.

[getrdunne]

Originally Posted by Werelynx

Yep, first of all, Quick Claw is a hax item and is banned from standard play. Second of all, Donphan doesn't need speed. I'd suggest Leftovers to maximize its tank usage.

its ok to have half of my team using leftovers because this is more of a stall team instead of a sweeping team right?

[riley]

take rapid spin and recover off of starmie. Here's my moveset

Starmie Timid
252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd
Ice Beam
Surf
Thunderbolt
Pyschic

Take it or leave!

[getrdunne]

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