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help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

After loosing 5 battles in a row I decided I need a change. My old team consisted of,

Empoleon @?
Calm
Surf
Ice beam
Toxic
Flash canon

Scizor@?
Jolly
Ability: Technician
Iron head
X-scissor
Night slash
Double hit

Kangagkahn @?
Jolly
Ability Early bird
Fake out
Body slam
Earthquake
Brick break

Tyranitar@ ?
Adamant
Rockslide
Crunch
Earthquake
Flamethrower

Salamence @?
Crunch
Fire fang
Dragon dance
Dragon claw

Torterra @ ?
Adamant
Seed bomb
Body slam
Earthquake
Stone edge

The only one I am definitely keeping is Torterra as for the rest I don’t know what to keep any help would be useful. I am open to any suggestions and before anyone says anything torterras move set is legit it just takes time and thought to get those 2 egg moves together
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

Tyranitar@lum berry
Adamant
Taunt / Substitute
Fire Punch
Thunder
Crunch

Scizor@?
adamant lol a jolly scizor
Ability: Technician
Iron head
X-scissor
Night slash
Double hit

Kangagkahn @?
Jolly
Ability Early bird
Fake out
Body slam
Earthquake
Brick break
maybe you should get rid of this for a defensive swampert or hippodawn

Empoleon @leftovers
Calm-post your ev's if you want more help, thats probably why your loosing
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot / Stealth Rock
Roar / Yawn

Salamence @?
Crunch
Fire fang
Dragon dance
Dragon claw

salamence wont help this team, if you go with the sandstorm theme then you should put in a hippowdawn/swampert

Torterra @ choice band
Adamant
Seed bomb
Body slam
Earthquake
Stone edge

3/10 i can see why your loosing , you need aa good theme, replace kangaskan and salamence with swampert and hippodawn, that should really help your team. Secondly post your ev's if you know what those are, they will also help this team.


 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

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After loosing 5 battles in a row I decided I need a change. My old team consisted of,

Empoleon @?
Calm
Surf
Ice beam
Toxic
Flash canon

Scizor@?
Jolly
Ability: Technician
Iron head
X-scissor
Night slash
Double hit

Kangagkahn @?
Jolly
Ability Early bird
Fake out
Body slam
Earthquake
Brick break

Tyranitar@ ?
Adamant
Rockslide
Crunch
Earthquake
Flamethrower

Salamence @?
Crunch
Fire fang
Dragon dance
Dragon claw

Torterra @ ?
Adamant
Seed bomb
Body slam
Earthquake
Stone edge

The only one I am definitely keeping is Torterra as for the rest I don’t know what to keep any help would be useful. I am open to any suggestions and before anyone says anything torterras move set is legit it just takes time and thought to get those 2 egg moves together
I have never critiqued a team, so take my advice with a dash of salt

From the looks of your team, you have four pokemon with x4 weaknesses, and little defensive oriented pokemon to switch to absorb the damage (Salamance and Torterra changing to Empoleon is the real switch, and Tyranitar to Salamance for fighting).

On the individual pokemon themselves

Empoleon is primarily a defensive pokemon, so the calm nature is smart. The problem is his moveset is to offense oriented. I feel Empoleon is best used for support with stealth rock, and as a special wall. Empoleon has good special attack so keep Ice beam and Surf for good coverage, but I would say trade Flash Cannon for Stealth Rock, especially if Empoleon is your lead.

Scizor is a pokemon I have mixed feelings for, I like Scyther a lot more, but Scizor is a tankier version of scyther, but loses 40 speed base stat for 20 attack and defense. I think your scizor has a problem, it only takes advantage of technician with double hit, a move I dislike. I think you should remove double hit for agility and night slash for brick break. The reason for this is that X-scissor covers psychics and darks while night slash covers psychics and ghosts, half your moves only cover 3 different types. Scizor is bulky enough to get an agility in, and proceed to sweep with moves that take advantage of STAB and cover 8 types with super effectivity. Not to mention STAB Iron head, 130 base attack, agility (minimum speed would be over 360 with Jolly and good IVs), and 30% flinch rate is rather attractive .

Kangaskahn has the wrong ability. Early bird doesn't help it as much as Scrappy would, especially when you have no way to hit Gengar who resides in the Overused tier. I would say scrap the Kahn. If you want to keep it, put Sucker punch over fake out. Possibly Hammer arm over Brick Break.

Tyranitar and Salamence look fine, but like the one poster said, if you keep T-Tar, it doesn't mesh with Salamence. You should go with a garchomp to take advantage of Sandstream + Sand Veil.

Torterra is keepable, but I would say make it learn leech seed over seed bomb. Trade Body Slam for Wood Hammer.

Again, this is my first critique, hope it helps
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Venom4S View Post
After loosing 5 battles in a row I decided I need a change. My old team consisted of,

Empoleon @?fine
Calm
Surf
Ice beam
Toxic
Flash canon

Scizor@?fine
Jolly
Ability: Technician
Iron head
X-scissor
Night slash
Double hit

Kangagkahn @?
Jolly
Ability Early bird
Fake out why dont u replace it with facade
Body slam
Earthquake
Brick break

Tyranitar@ ?
Adamant
Rockslidestone egde maybe?
Crunch
Earthquake
Flamethrowerthis is a spA try dd

Salamence @?
Crunch
Fire fang
Dragon dance
Dragon claw

Torterra @ ?
Adamant
Seed bomb
Body slam
Earthquake
Stone edge

The only one I am definitely keeping is Torterra as for the rest I don’t know what to keep any help would be useful. I am open to any suggestions and before anyone says anything torterras move set is legit it just takes time and thought to get those 2 egg moves together
this team is fine maybe its u
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

just rechecked my iv's here they are
Empoleon EV
hp 252
SpA 252
Speed 6
Iv’s
23 / 26 / 23 / 22 / 1 / 29

Scizor
Ev’s
HP 6
Att 252
Speed 252
Iv’s 20 / 31 / 24/ 18 / 26/ 31
This is why I chose a jolly scizor

Kangagkahn
Ev’s
Hp 6
Att 252
Speed 252
Iv’s
27 / 28 / 16 / 3 / 26 / 29

Tyranitar
Hp 6
Att 252
Def 252
Iv’s
21 / 23 / 23 / 4 / 28 / 29

Salamence
Ev
HP 6
Att 252
Speed 252
Iv’s
8 / 25 / 30 / 30 / 27 / 22

Torterra
EV’s
Hp 6
Att 252
Speed 252
Iv’s
4 / 31 / 29 / 23 / 29 / 31

kayla thank you

sumeet It probably is me I am more of a breeder than a battler It may just be my fighting style the team has given ve 11 wins before but against people I know don't battle much.
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

well i think u put the ev'es in wrong for torrterra and scizor, there really slow and there ev'es would be better placed in defence
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

ok thank you so you think they should be hp 6 att 252 and def 252 or do you have a different spread in mind?
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-06-2008

well i guess for torrterra u could put the extra six in hp and for scizor sp defence
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-12-2008

Since Garchomp’s status is being called into question (right after I had just Iv breed a good one and EV trained it damn it.) I thought I would start work on a Flygon to replace Salamence so if anyone has a good suggestion on nature move set and EV spread.
 
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Re: help me rebuild my team - 08-13-2008

hmmm, this team is starting to look like a modified SS team, so why not abuse it? Also, a physical tank can take its toll on this team, so maybe a special pokemon will be good, say, the likes of a specs-lucario, coz empoleon just doesnt cut it. The Kangaskhan, and salamence sort of puts this team, more as burdens than assets. I suggest u go for a special wall that benefits from SS. Also, the added defensive boosts from SS will help u a lot, though, u have to retrain most of ur pokemon, like t-tar for instance. 252 atk, 252 hp, 6 sp def and adamant is more effective than u might think, benefiting from SS. If u do go for an SS team, u should take out scizor, kangaskhan and salamence, and add Hippowdon, if u really want, Flygon(Jolly, or adamant if physical), and another one. Here are movesets that i think will work for Flygon:
Choice scarf, Naughty/naive, 252 atk 120 sp atk 136 spe
EQ
Draco meteor
Stone edge/Fire blast
U-turn
OR
Life Orb/Choice Band
Jolly/Adamant, 252 atk 216 Spe 40 hp
EQ
Dragon Claw
Stone edge/Fire Blast/Fire Punch
U-turn/Roost

Hope that helps!


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