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Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-15-08

Little Moogle here again to enlighten fellow smashers on the following character...,
Solid Snake himself!...

SNAKE IN HIS PRIME!!!

I wonder what did Hideo Kojima do to make Snake this powerful and good... Makes ya wonder huh?
ANYWAYS!...

The guide would normally just be this...
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trick your friends into thinking snake sucks. then use him.
(Brilliant Quote lol)
But Let's be more skeptical about it...
Snake is known for his Mortar sliding, broken hit-box attacks, and just being litterally bad ass... Get ready to jot down notes because this is gonna be a good one...

(Obviously that kick didn't reach them...)


(AUTHOR'S NOTE- no, I do not like to post %'s because I myself thinks no one cares about it and just only cares for either how to use the attack, if it's K.O. potential, or look for pretty pictures >.>)


Lets start off with his award winning Standard ground moveset...
Movelist
A-combo
mere words can't describe this attack, a simple one-two-three combo with excellent knockback for a "weak attack" though its better to use his other one-two combo which I'll explain shortly...
Dash Attack

No matter how many times someone does this to me I always get hit lol, It has a weired hit-box range and is pretty useful to move about, I mean it passes through a shielding character to avoid getting shield-grabbed... but there is the other main use of this attack which I'll explain in the AT section...
-Forward Tilt
JUSTIN WONG!!! OH MAI GOD!!!!!! (YouTube - Evo 2007 Moment starts at 1:27...)
His Forward tilt is a simple Knee to over head swing attack with tremendous speed,range, and knock-back... Very fast attack indeed, you might be using this attack alot... good for spacing and sending people flying :p
note- alternative 1-2 combo, A -> (Crouch cancel) -> Forward Tilt Combo
to crouch cancel "A jabs" Simply Jab and at the end of the animation quickly crouch and either jab again or do something else...
-Down tilt
Sneaky, sneaky! Very good hit range and launch, best used as a surprise attack...
-Up tilt
... do I have to? *sigh* Ridiculously strong I must say... this move will mainly K.O. the floaty people in no time... Ridiculous range, Ridiculous power, this move is too good... Best to use this move after a Roll/Sidestep since it's initial attack is wicked fast.
-Down Smash
Snake lays down a Proximity mine in which if you step in that radius, you WILL die (lol), Snake users usually lay a full charged Mine after their opponent just got K.O'd so they can use it in Safety. It has good power and is a pretty sneaky attack if you know how to chain it correctly. Just try not to get blasted by it...
-Forward Smash
Extremely powerful, has a pretty good blast range, just try to be cautious when your using it, you can get mad penalized if you mess up...
-Up Smash
Snake Launches a Mortar in the sky depending on how long he charges it..., This attack will be your favorite smash attack in no time... It adds a lot of pressure on recovering opponents who are trying to get back on the stage, It adds Tactic in which you can chain an Up-tilt to a Mortar in the face Or just plain random... Usually after a Mortar, you can shoot a Forward Smash since you have safety from the Mortar, but don't take my word for it.
Grabs
"There is a general trend of throw strength throughout Brawl’s character roster. On the whole, characters with supernatural powers tend to have the most powerful throws, while fighters like the ones from the Fire Emblem series tend to have weaker ones."
(Sakurai)

-Forward Grab
Snake does a Strong Toss with his Uber CQC action... Has very good launch...
-Back Grab
Snake tosses the opponent backwards, almost equivalent with his forward Throw
-Down Grab
Oh... the possibilities... you can really test someones patience with this one, once initiated, your opponent has four options, each with consequences lol, If the opponent either stands up or Attacks from the ground, Shield -> grab do it again lol, If they Roll behind you, you can pretty much penalize them with a knee to the face Forward tilt combo, If they roll away from you, do a dash attack, most likely you will hit them OR you could chase and quickly do the grab again...
-Up grab
Snake does a pretty good suplex throw in which you could easily launch them in the air..., you can use this move with the mortar to deliver a pretty good chain.
So wait a minute... your telling me Snake is super natural!?

Aerials
-Neutral Air
A four kick combo in which the fourth kick delivers a devastating knock back... Kind of hard to use this move since you can't really jump from the floor and do all four kicks... OR CAN YOU!? simple, if you practicly press (Y or X) and hold the jump combined with A, you will do all four kicks from the ground delivering a punishing yet devastating kick combos...
-Forward Air
LoL, they gave Snake a Meteor..., This attack is very powerful, even if you miss the meteor, theres a chance they'll fly directly upwards and die, you can use this move as a recovery since it offers little hovering time
-Down Air
yay more kicks..., if you use this from the ground and connect, your opponent will either... die, or recieve huge knock back... its practically like his Neutral air... though of warning, if you don't do all the kicks for both neutral and Down air, you can easily get penalized...
-Up Air
Its like the same power as his up tilt, but much fancier, you can use this attack from the ledge and you'll bounce back to the stage cause of its little height boost...

SPECIALS!! OMG LOLOL11!!!11!
-Neutral B
Hand Grenade

This will be your main projectile... you have many possibilities with this little explosive... And you could have two at one time! lets see...
You can either throw it with 3 distances... (soft lob , hold back) (medium throw, Hold up) (Strong throw, Hold Forward)
Thats no fun..., but i'll explain the most enjoyable uses soon...
-Side B
Remote Controlled Missle
(The NIKITA missile launcher AS SHOWN IN MGS1) *I know i'm going to get corrected SUE ME*
This handy little weapon lets you control a missile for a brief duration... you can use it to chase opponents that are off stage or you can use mindgame tactics... (shoot it straight up and shield to let it drop), Shielding the missile to make it drop is not a bad thing at all... if they want to be cool and side step it... you can drop it so after the side step animation is done, they'll get blasted. What I find fun with this is Shooting the missile, And making it come back to you, pretty good defense if you ask me.
-Up B
Cypher

This can make you recover from almost anything, it gives you great distance, but major vulnerability... you can easily get WoP'd by anybody from this... what User's normally due is Air dodge afterwards to avoid the attack and make it back safely on the stage...
-Down B
C4

This handy little tool Can make strategy, Spacing, and coolness all at once. basically if their in the blast radius, Press down+B again to make the bad people go away... It's best if you use this on platforms/edges/ especially Smashville's moving Platform..., You can also sticky people with it, It also goes through Shields!!!, just becareful... its Timed and has the Sticky Bomb effect...

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Man I'm wiped... but were not done yet... The advance techniques Section will be on the next post, cause this is just way too big lol...
Pictures Should be up either tomorrow or Around the week or so... IF ANYONE KNOWS A GOOD ANIMATED GIF PROGRAM, PLEASE SHARE lawl... The one I have sucks, and its really slow...
anyways let me continue with the AT section



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Re: Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-15-08

OK ENOUGH WITH THE BORING STUFF!!!!

ADVANCE TECHNIQUES SECTION!!! I HAS DEM!!!

well... Where should I start?... Mortar Sliding?, Proper way to cook the grenade? Lets start with something good...

LOL, MORTAR SLIDING (Snakes Boosted Smash)
This handy little technique is one of the reasons Snake is over used in tournaments... This little technique allows you to do a dash attack and instantly slide into a Up smash mortar launch, you cannot shield grab this, I repeat if you do Ima say you cheat and ask you to turn off your action Replay... lol, iono if its possible because if they attempt to grab, they'll most likely get hit by Snakes Initial Setting up the Mortar Launch...
This technique shows Many possibilities, (up-tilt to Mortar, Forward Smash, Doing it again lol), you can really get mobile with this technique and acquire different strategies when using it... to pull this technique off, simply Do a boosted smash, quickly dash attack an opponent... once it makes contact (shield or hits) IMMEDIATELY do an up smash (most preferably C stick), you'll quickly do an up smash as a chain... simple? It is... Snakes is the easiest to boost smash with.

It should look like this...

C4 Jump
Fell out of the Cypher I see and no way to recover? this technique should fix that... Simply lay down a C4 while falling and quickly blow it up, you should get blasted by the explosion and you should be able to use your Up B again... Just be cautious on your %, and the height your doing it in, you might not have enough time to blow it up and just fall.

It might save your life... or end it...

Grenade Stalling
First pop a grenade and lob it with a Medium power, Then quickly pull out another one and Cook it, the grenade you just tossed should stop intentionally and fall where it just stopped...

Cooking the Grenade
You have many uses with this technique... you simply shield after you popped a grenade and it'll drop on the floor in which you could pick it up, now you can run freely with it for about 3-4 seconds...

Proper uses with cooking the grenade

Ok, you have it in your hand... now what? *BOOM* you die, you phail, just kidding... you have many more uses with this handy technique..., y
you can nonchalantly drop it (with the Z button) so you can do an aerial as a follow up... or you can just be slick and they won't know you have it...
The epic Barrel Roll, Simply guess when the grenade is going to explode and Roll, The invincibility frames should save you and not your opponent lol.
Grenade Bouncing, Wanna be fancy? cook the grenade and throw it on the floor, the grenade should bounce and either... (come back to where it bounce and blow up, Land on a platform then blow up, or blow up in the air) It all depends on when you bounced it.

DO A BARREL ROLL!!


LoL, Bounce that nade >.>

Grenade Block
Snakes Dirty tricks Saves him with this technique, if your opponent is about to attack you, Quickly pop a grenade, and Cook it Right when they attack you, their are two scenarios that should happen...
1) The opponent Hits the grenade and they blow up and not you (insert laugh here)
2) The opponent picks up the grenade, and they'll either Throw it away, at you, or doesn't have a clue that they picked it up.

If it's not something like this... YOUR DOING IT WRONG!!! (jk)

BOX K.O.
it's not really advance but very humiliating if it happens... Simply use the Box taunt on an opponent recovering vertically, the huge hit-"BOX" (LOL I'm Lame) should spike them and they die and you laugh...

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That's pretty much all you have to know about Snake, I'm really lazy right now, but if there should be a character match up, Pair him up with anyone and he still has a pretty good chance at winning lol...

Pictures Should come up eventually...Til next time Peace!

CHARACTER MATCH-UPS OH MY GOD!!!! Im only going to do OU characters for now...
-Marth
ahh... the lithe knight of Altea... such a persistent one... this battle should be quite interesting, since Marth has no projectiles you can take it easy and Nade stall if you must, overall closing in on this guy should be pretty difficult... if you try to knee him with a F-tilt, you might be looking at a sweet spotted F-smash to the brain lol. Use your grenades as an advantage and C4's to create serious spacing between him and you. if he gets you into the air off the stage, he will try to Ken Combo you to a pulp or just plain intercept so be very cautious of that. Otherwise your looking at your percentage exploding.
-Pit
Pray you get a short stage like Battlefield or something lol, projectile battle, YOU WILL LOSE..., you can use boost smashing to close in on him otherwise your gonna have to be dodging alot, his nair is a usual aerial close in on Snake, so pop a grenade and get ready to shield block. normally a Pit would try to keep you at bay with WoP's of Fair's and Dair's, your smarter than that? Just space yourself and connect some tilts... an up tilt should end him around 100+...
-Ike
Tis a beast I say!, this warrior will definitely intimidate you... your looking at A-combos to grab left and right. he has serious spacing and power to live up for. be very cautious on the hit range of his Fair and such. use tilts to keep him away, and grenades as surprises. though if he gets you off the stage, DO NOT, i repeat, DO NOT Up+B near the ledge... He will spike you with his Down tilt, or attempt to Fsmash you on the spot, or the other scenario, Fair you like theres no tomorrow.

-Dedede
This battle isn't that bad if you think about it... just try your best not to get Bair'd and Fair'd like mad... close in on him as you normally would, and create spacing... OTHERWISE your looking at a good Down throw Chain Grab all the way across the field. He will attempt to use waddle dee/doo/gordos, to create spacing... but you have boost smashing... you can dash attack a waddle dee and use that as a boost smash setup... pretty handy!. Just be cautious of his Dair/Uair/and Fsmash... otherwise your fine.
-Meta Knight
this should be good... most likely the mask wielding character would use a barrage of Fairs or Bairs to keep you away to rack up damage until he can use his Dsmash to KO you. If you know hes gonna tornado you, Nade block him, it will save you lol. He has other tricks like his Nair and Tilts but obviously your tilts are superior. use nades to keep him away and Up tilt when you have the chance, that's going to be your main K.O. move for him.
-Falco
This bird doesn't play around... his lasers will prevent you from throwing grenades willy nilly so be cautious of that. if he grabs you at low %, your looking at a down-throw boosted smash.
(If Falco grabs you at 0-10%, your at a 60-80% handicap depending how good your DI is) His aerials will try to prevent you from countering so be vary of that... Try not to mortar much, because apparantly if he reflects them, you blow up lol. Use tilts for space and try not to get Side B'd too much... Oh, if your off the stage... he will try to Dair you on the spot so be cautious...

TONS OF OTHERS Like Diddy and such, BUT ANOTHER DAY!!!

CREDITS
Me for taking this time to type up this guide and support pictures, and "Mother" (USERNAME GOSH!!) for helping me create the images and for just plain pwning in the world of Smash...
Keep smashing everyone!! (lol... this could have multiple meanings...)



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Re: Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-15-08

this guide was like most other guides, goes over the attacks.(it was a great guide btw)
but what really made me laugh was the photo at the end of the first post :p
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Re: Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-15-08

Lol, thanks, I know I'm not original, but thats basically all I could do at this point, I would make like a character match up and stuff, but might take a really long time ^^
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Lol, thanks, I know I'm not original, but thats basically all I could do at this point, I would make like a character match up and stuff, but might take a really long time ^^
they do...

i can never get enough of the photo...its hilarious :p
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Re: Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-15-08

LittleMoogle, you have inspired me to make a Ness guide; thanks!
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snake is just to dang good. personally i would call the mortar slide, the ''lolzer slide". thats just me^_^
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Re: Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-15-08

i had just read the advanced techniques and i finally realize why people say hes good but from what i read he will take practice...
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Re: Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-16-08

Pretty good guide, missing some things but its good.
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Re: Little Moogle's Snake guide!, roflcoptor - 06-16-08

Im too lazy to search up official SWF guides on what I missed, I'm just going through what I know..., but meh it'll do I guess
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