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    How to Deal with Sasuke.

    Okay so I've noticed a lot of newcomers to the game are having trouble against Sasuke. Here I'm going to explain how to fight the standard WiFi Spammers who do j.b AAAAA over and over again as well as the ones who just abuse j.b too.

    First off Sasuke is a pretty scrub friendly character, not as scrub friendly as Hiruko but still pretty scrub friendly thanks to his free teleport with j.b. At first it may seem like this is one of those stupid tactics that you're never going to get past without having to take tons of damage only to then hit him and have him KnJ and start all over, right? Well that's pretty damn wrong. This tactic is really easy to get around and punish. Despite all this Sasuke is a solid Mid Tier character that requires a lot of patience and mind games thanks to his lack of good mix-up options and a lot of unsafe strings on block.

    This is how you beat it. Simply walk backward. That's right, just walk backward. Walking backward is an auto guard while your facing the opponent but if you're opponent somehow appears behind you it turns you around to face them and goes back to guarding. This is the key to defeating Sasuke's j.b. Once you're turned around there's a few things you can do which I will list now.

    1. Attack Sasuke with a B string.

    Depending on what the Sasuke does you can simply attack him after he re-appears. If they try and use the A (Snake Sword) on you it won't matter because Sasuke' A is too slow coming out to your jab will connect with him before the sword comes over Sasuke's head, granted you have a good frame jab one like Naruto or Lee's.

    2. Side step and punish after you've turned around.

    If the Sasuke tries an A or B string you also have the option of side stepping away and punishing him with anything you choose.

    3. Take AA or BB on block then side step.

    The third hit in both Sasuke's A and B Strings are uppercuts that are EXTREMELY slow. These are both slow that as soon as the second hit connects on your guard you can mash side step and evade the third attack then punish Sasuke with anything you want, especially if they use the AAA string since the sword has tremendous cool down time.

    4. Attack Sasuke with a B string after taking BB on block.

    Because his Third B move in Sasuke's BBB is so slow you can also simply attack him after taking the second hit of B on block. Naruto, for example, can A or B before Sasuke's third B comes out.

    5. Use the 'Paper Bomb Stance' to auto turn and block upon Sasuke re-appearing.

    When Sasuke ports behind you, you can also press L+R after he disappears and your character will auto turn to face him as he reappears. You can then immediately punish by throwing a paper bomb (online a paper bomb hit if the opponent isn't guarding means auto stage transition) or just letting go of L and R and go back go guarding.

    This is basically how to deal with the standard WiFi Sasuke but be aware you may come across a halfway decent or good one. Sasuke's main thing is confusing his opponent by continually j.b porting around to create an opening in his opponents missed punish. Since this is WiFi you shouldn't have to worry too much about Y-Cancel's since they're difficult online and Sasuke's are very frame strict meaning most won't be getting them off on you online.

    Sasuke can Y-Cancel the following.

    BBBY
    AAAY
    b.BBY

    The third A in both these strings and the second B in the Back B string launch the opponent into the air so both are able to be canceled. Sasuke can then follow up with another B string or a well timed A string.

    Sasuke's j.A, Katon: Housenka no Jutsu (Fire Style: Phoenix Flower Jutsu), is also pretty amazing because of the range, but it takes one bar of Sasuke's Chakra. You can dash at then side step this and catch Sasuke before he lands since he floats slowly down to the ground, especially if they use it after both of his mid-air jumps. Sasuke can SHj.A and follow up into an A String, if the j.A hits you expect to take some serious damage.

    I hope this helps some of you annoyed by this character. I do this all the time and beat these types Sasuke's.

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    Re: How to Deal with Sasuke.

    The problem with Sasuke online is that lag ruins sidestepping. If the game had better wifi, everybody would see that Sasuke is good, but not amazing. He is not a scrub friendly character at all except on Wifi. Offline he requires strategy because his teleports are very telegraphed and predictable. If you notice, he also sheathes his sword EVERY time he uses it. In other words, if you block/dodge his sword slashes, he takes about 2 seconds afterward to sheath the sword. This makes his sword moves extremely unsafe because they have really bad recovery. Things like his running A become useless (hence you should always do running AB with Sasuke).

    Offline, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA spam is TERRIBLE. If it's blocked, you can sidestep after the second A. Then Sasuke is left COMPLETELY wide open. You can attack him, super him, throw him, do a combination of the above, whatever. He's totally a sitting duck. In fact, a lot of Sasuke's strings leave him pretty open, which means that BB is the only safe string for him if he's blocked.

    Since sidestepping is hard online, really the best way to deal with Sasuke's AAAAAA is to just back b right after the second A. It will cause the rest of Sasuke's attacks to miss.

    If you can manage sidestepping though, you will seriously wreck Sasuke online. If you sidestep either the first A or after the second A, the ball will be in your court and you can do whatever you want to him. As for phoenix flower jutsu, that just comes down to prediction. It's actually a fair move since he has no kunai and it drains his chakra by quite a bit. Most Sasukes will just teleport in the air, in which case your best options are to jump back or sidestep.

    Hearing all this may make you think that Sasuke is BAD offline, but that's not entirely true either. His teleports are telegraphed but are still fast. Sometimes you have to paper bomb him in order to stop him. Moreover, he can technically deflect that paper bomb with really good timing (not exactly an easy feat, however). He does a lot of damage if his hits do connect, and his supers are EXCELLENT. Chidori stream is unblockable. While it has weak range, if used right it is deadly. His down x is amazingly swift and amazingly powerful too.

    Sasuke is nowhere near as irritating as Hiruko. Hiruko is seriously, SERIOUSLY a pain in the rear. His kunai aren't deflectable, cost nothing and come out super fast. His back B counters literally everything, including some supers. His moves have tracking that make no sense, his throw range is extended, and he has the fastest run in the game. Really he's a totally annoying character. The only thing that stops him from being completely broken is that there are other immensely cheap characters like Kankuro and Kiba that have moves that literally break the game. Kiba has a dog setting glitch that lets him attack with Akamaru no matter what's going on (even if he's being attacked). Kankuro can zone all day, messes with the camera, has a cheap Down X, and is hard to approach due to his puppets.
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    Re: How to Deal with Sasuke.

    I deal with most online saskues by just backward B the 3rd hit of the sword combo. But what do you do when they spam chidori streams?

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    Re: How to Deal with Sasuke.

    I like to instantly turn around when he substitutes.His stupid sword slash combo bugs me,although I just use Itachi's shadow clone to dodge and go 4 the kill


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    Re: How to Deal with Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonster1 View Post
    I deal with most online saskues by just backward B the 3rd hit of the sword combo. But what do you do when they spam chidori streams?
    Chidori stream is unblockable, so the best option is literally to run away.

    If they teleport and try to chidori stream behind you, you can run forward to avoid it completely. Fortunately, chidori stream's range is bad enough that unless lag impedes you, you should have no trouble avoiding it! if he's in front of you and uses chidori stream, your best option is probably to backdash, but I suppose it varies from character to character. If he chidori streams you on wakeup, it could be a problem. You might be able to wakeup teleport (press A right when you get up) out of it. I'm not sure.
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    Re: How to Deal with Sasuke.

    I'll try it and thanks

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